I'm intrigued to know this.
Does people lurking here actually use Linux itself on their phones, or simply Android as usual?

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I use the stock ROM my phone came with.
44.3%
I flashed a custom ROM. (Lineage, Graphene...)
51.5%
I actually use Linux on my phone, indeed.
4.2%
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4% out of 167 votes actually uses Linux on their phone, thank you very much for voting! 

Well that's some interesting answers we got there. :)

@unbloated kaios counts as Linux right?

@MBEverding @unbloated
short version: no

slightly longer: kaios is not based on android, it is based on firefoxos. but firefoxos is still heavily modified linux and does not give root access by default. kaios has uninstallable system apps, which could be google or manufacturer bloat.

@zetabeta @MBEverding
Oh, okay! My bad! That makes sense, it's just like Android, so it doesn't really count as is.
Thank you for reminding us! 

@MBEverding Yes, of course! It's really awesome. 

Edit : I was wrong actually. Look at the reply of @zetabeta x(

@unbloated I have IodΓ©
@Yggranger Interesting choice!
I think iodΓ©OS is a interesting project but I quite have a negative opinion about it due to the fact it has a premium subscription and some similar stuff around that looks odd to me.
If I would have selected a Android privacy-focused OS, it would be GrapheneOS.
But hey, if you enjoy it and you're happy with it, that's the matter :)
@unbloated it was installed on the phone I bought (Teracube 2); it works OK for me; I don't subscribe to the paying service.
I used to use LineAge, was OK too...
I'm not clear about (rational) reasons to opt for this or that...
@unbloated I was looking to install postmakerOS on mine but had some problems as the phone is only community supported
@mudslingar Fair enough! I used to have the same problem with my older phone with LineageOS. When it's only community supported, it can lead to problems and lack of updates (at least AFAIK).
@unbloated yep. snooping on the net I found people advising to use a gsi but being the first time I'm doing anything like that I'm waitingtohave time to experiment on it

@unbloated

Does everyone here know what ROM is. Because if Mastodon is not attracting people that don't then it is limiting it's user base considerably.

@the5thColumnist Perhaps.. It may have multiple meanings. 
@unbloated
Well you can access the Royal Ontario Museum on your phone, actually without context that come to mind before Read Only Memory. Or Rapid Onset Megalomania comes to mind in light of current events.
@unbloated can u use linux? like not a rom, linux linux!?
@unbloated From what I've read, GrapheneOS is more secure than any standard Linux distro.
@unbloated iPhone, and I often need help to work out how to use it?
@unbloated I'm going to be that guy and state that Android is Linux. By "actually use Linux", what specifically do you mean?

@stinerman I knew anyway someone would say that. No worries.

People actually uses OSes that are very close to Linux, and sometimes based off like Debian or similar on their phone. Sounds weird, but most of the already made distros for phones are kind of neat.

@unbloated ok, so "uses an operating system on their phone that is based on a desktop distribution" is what you mean.
@stinerman Kind of, maybe. I didn't do a deep search about it so I don't know much. I've just heard of it.
@unbloated i have a pixel, i feel no urge to get a rom like how i used to, maybe thats my personal thing tho

@unbloated fwiw I've used / tried linux itself on phones.

Maemo / Nokia 900 worked perfectly for years. Then Microsoft embraced and extinguished it.

Firefox phone worked, as I recall. For some reason, though, didn't use it much. This would have been some 10 years ago.

More recent attempts (Pinephone) never properly worked (4 years ago).

GrapheneOS is almost like being back in Maemo days. Access to OS means all sorts of dev gymnastics, though, so there's that.

@unbloated like, 1 and 3 both? I don't understand the question. All androids are linuxes and some people use the features of the underlying Linux system irrespective of whether they've flashed another distribution onto the device

I'll vote 1 as I'm sure that's the case for me, no matter how the question is meant

Edit: wait, no, I did re-flash it, but with the stock OS because I bought it second hand and wanted it to be clean. Should I have voted 2?! All options apply to me lol

@luc As everyone know, Android is based on Linux. But here I'm asking phones that are based on Linux and **not** on Android.
This means for example, a Linux-based OS, or even based off a Linux distro.
Again, Android is based on Linux but is heavily modified to partially work as Linux (and it's on almost all mobile devices), so I prefer not saying it's a "Linux-based" OS.
I hope you understand.

@unbloated ah right, so option 3 means any Linux that isn't also an Android. Then I did vote correctly!

The distinction seems sorta thin though. I've got the vendor's base system so that it has e.g. the camera software optimised for this hardware, but I can also apt install things directly from the Debian's ARM repositories and they work just like on my laptop and server. I make full system backups with the same software, use the same command-line calculator, edit code in the same editor, etc.

@luc I don't know, Android doesn't feel like it for me.
I'm glad you understand thought! 
@unbloated I'm not using a physical phone at all, but I use virtual phones on my Linux setup! πŸ“žπŸ’»πŸ”’ #VirtualPhone I also like to use custom ROMs and run Android in QEMU for even more flexibility.
@debby Aha! I see!
Having a physical phone is pretty much neat because it's a little device in your pocket that can be used in many ways.
If you love exploring ROMs, fixing bugs or making apps, perhaps using emulators is a great choice!
Which ROMs do you emulate the most? And, if not too indiscrete, which apps do you use the most in your emulators, what are their main use? 

@unbloated
Hey! I understand the appeal of a physical phone, but for me, it's more of a distraction that impacts my productivity and well-being. Plus, I'm really big on privacy, and cellphone networks aren't exactly privacy-respecting.

When it comes to emulators, I mostly use virtual Android without Gcode for testing. I also love exploring the /e/ ROM, Harmony OS is kind of intersting. KDE Mobile is pretty neat, and Ubuntu Touch is definitely improving.

For apps, I mainly use Signal, GryJay, NewPipe, Matrix, and Mashtatic in my emulated environment. What about you?
Which ROMs do you prefer, and what are your go-to apps? Do you emulate ROMs?

@debby Well, I main LineageOS (No MicroG, Ungoogled), simply because it's one of the rare phones that are officially supported. (I use a Sony Xperia XA2 Plus).
I might explore more ROMs in case I really find them awesome.

I mostly use a phone because I'm kind of "addicted" to technology and stuff like that. :P

I use apps such as PipePipe (NewPipe fork), SimpleX, FluffyChat, Moshidon, Droid-ify, etc.

I don't emulate ROMs, so far I only emulate old Windows environments (98/WXP/Vista/7 & Betas) for experiments and fun stuff, and artistic malware making.

Also I congratulate you for being very focused on your privacy and freedom. 

@unbloated
custom rom ever since a Samsung galaxy S (gt-i9000) wich cam new without OS
@robje Wow, oh well, that proves us that people in the old times were much less lazy in term of technology!
It's interesting how before, we invited us to flash the ROM we wanted, and now, centralized phones are just... Locked bricks. 
@unbloated
the phone was supposed to come with an os. The one i received didn't.
@robje Ah, okay I see. Thanks for the clarification.