Trump says 'I don't know' when asked if he must uphold the Constitution

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Trump says 'I don't know' when asked if he must uphold the Constitution - Lemmy.World

Doesn’t even know the presidential oath he pledged. You proud now MAGAts? Does this make you proud?

“don’t konow” ?? isn’t that like the first thing in his task description?

Yes. In fact, you couldn’t be more correct about the matter.

I would describe his response to the question as fully preposterous.

I would describe it as a dereliction of duty.
If Biden said that the headline would be “Sleepy Dementia Joe Biden Doesn’t Remember Oath of Office He Took Three Months Ago”. It would be brought up in every segment on every news station for weeks. Trump says it and the news is like “That’s kinda weird… Anyways, wonder what Elon is doing…”
conservative owned MSMs have done that the whole last year. yes all the msm are currently owned by a conservative partially or fully.
I would describe it as treason; specifically, giving aid and comfort to a domestic enemy (himself).

Imagine celebrating a fascist swearing allegiance to a slavemasters pact.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

Civil religion - Wikipedia

Idk = no, but I can’t outright say it cause optics.
Oath of the office that all presidents must make: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
You think he was awake for that part?
Right, but was he lying when he said it? He’s not sure.
He had his fingers crossed…
If I recall, he didn’t even place a hand on the Bible.
Pretty crazy that it’s sworn in the Bible when the state is supposed to be separated from the church

I’m pretty sure each person chooses a document/book to swear on that is core to them. So most people in the US would choose the Bible, but if a Jewish person or Muslim person was sworn in on they could choose the Torah or Quran. And a non-religuous person could choose anything that they could convinceably argue is important/core to their values.

Disclaimer: I did no research right now to confirm this but that’s what I remember.

I remember one politician being sworn in with a stack of comics.

I did not know this … it is both awesome and interesting.

I think the act of being sworn in should also be on one’s passport, give it more weight that if you break the oath you lose the citizenship.

Revoking citizenship is a tough one, because statelessness is a huge issue in some parts of the world. It drastically complicates the international refugee process, because oftentimes people are fleeing their state and seeking asylum after being made stateless.

Though to be fair, the US is one of the only countries that refused to sign the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness, and only signed half of the 1967 Protocol Relating to the Status of Refugees.

Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness - Wikipedia

I guess then we’d get to have a lot more Terminal situations.
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Ya I’d be fine with trump being stateless at this point

It’s actually not mandatory that a Bible, or any religious text be used for swearing in a president. There’s nothing stating that a Jewish president couldn’t use the Torah or a Muslim president couldn’t use the Koran. We’ve just only had Christian presidents so far, though not all of them have used bibles for the ceremony.

Separation from church and state only pretty much states that congress can make no laws favoring one religion over another or make any laws prohibiting the practice of one’s religion. To prohibit a president from swearing in on a religious text of their choice would, in and of itself, be a first amendment violation. Saying they have to, would also be a violation. The strict separation of church from the state, freedom from religion or the “wall of separation,” is something people have argued for, but isn’t actually laid out in the constitution.

The separation of church and state is exactly why the president can be sworn in on a bible. Barring a member of office from swearing in on a religious text would specifically violate their first amendment right to practice religion. Importantly, the state doesn’t require them to use a bible, and it also doesn’t prevent them from doing so.

That’s the whole point of separation of church and state. If the state required it, that would be establishing a national religion. And if the state prevented it, that would be infringing on peoples’ right to practice religion.

It doesn’t need to be a religious text at all. It simply needs to be something that is important to the person being sworn in. Technically, you could be sworn in on a copy of the constitution itself.

Coming from a place where we practice laïcity, it’s a weird way to separate the State and religion to say that people can swear allegiance on a religious book.
Technically it’s a performative ritual and serves no real purpose. The swearing of the oath is the only important bit and should be enough. You humans and your weird attachment to symbols and artifacts. :)
Probably A. Pissed it wasn’t one from his merch store B. Afraid that if he touched a real Bible, he’d burst into flames.

he didn’t even place a hand on the Bible.

Fact!. For all his claims of being a “Christian”, he couldn’t be bothered.

Fact check: Does it matter that Donald Trump didn't put his hand on the Bible during his oath of office?

Some social media users wondered if Donald Trump not taking the oath on a religious text meant he wasn't properly sworn in.

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Lies!
His hands are far too tiny for his fingers to cross.
And he said …NOT, under his breath
Probably the reason why he didn’t swear on the Bible.
Swearing on the Bible only holds any weight if you’re actually religious. Trump is, at most, non-practicing.
I’m not religious, but a part of me really hopes he just spontaneously combusts one day.
it does say to the best of his ability. so maybe he is technically doing it?
Obviously he was being “sarcastic” during that too.
The “best of his ability” part is troubling because I have zero faith in his ability to do anything except turn our country into a cesspool.
Although all it would take is one phone call to release Kilmar, Trump never learned how to use a phone. Checkmate, libtards.
He was thinking of the concepts of his own constitution, not the current one…
The best of his ability is what’s being dealt here

It’s ok, he learned his lesson

-Susan Collins

He’s not. He’s above any and all laws. I don’t know why, but he his. The Constitution is meaningless to a king.

I don’t know why

Because nobody is both willing and able to impose accountability on him.

This comment has devastated the entire MAGAverse
He doesn’t know what the Declaration of Independence is,, something that’s taught all through grade and middle school in the U.S. The odds are he has no idea what the pesky Constitution says.
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The only time when “love and unity” isn’t the correct answer he uses it.
I don’t know. You’ll have to speak to the President about that.

Pressed whether his administration is following the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, which says no person “shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law,” Trump said he wasn’t sure.

“I don’t know. It seems – it might say that, but if you’re talking about that, then we’d have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials,” he said. “We have thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth.”

It might say that? Might? This isn’t something that is debatable you hippopotamic dung heap. That’s what it fucking says.

“Well yeah it says that but it’d be pretty inconvenient, so…”
Yeah, 3 million trials to catch the thousands of criminals in his own words… or maybe instead of trials first, they could maybe only be rounded up if there is any actual reason to believe they are a criminal in the first place. Then it would only be thousands of trials and all the problems being caused by rounding up 900+ innocent people per 1 criminal, would all of a sudden go away.
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Apparently I need to rewatch that movie!
Spot on, but Hippo dung is healthy for the environment. Krasnov is not.
…you sure? I think he’d make decent fertilizer.
Only in the polluted Russian soil, everywhere else, it would be considered a bio-hazard.

Now that’s a testable hypothesis!

*clicks pen*

It would be a mixture of Diet Coke and cheeseburgers leaking out into the healthy soil.
He’s gonna make a great urinal one day. Probably the most popular in the world…
Agent Orange is difficult to remove
He knows. He just hasn’t consolidated power enough yet to outright openly say he doesn’t give a shit. But keep waving those protest signs around guys. I’m sure that’ll slow him down.

That’s the issue isn’t it? Things aren’t bad enough that armed rebellion would be successful. If you tried you’d die and the vast majority will simply call you a terrorist and move on. Maybe you’ll get some popularity like luigi while the state works on executing you.

So instead people protest, but at best that may swing one or two votes in congress, but not enough to stop anything.

But as things get progressively worse and the state becomes more authoritarian revolution will also be harder as many will be tossed into a gulag before they can take up arms.

Plus any armed resistance will be used as an excuse to declare martial law.

Seems like a no win scenario. The current best chance is he has a stroke and Vance fails to govern effectively