liberal: omg how do we defeat Trumpism

socialist: *explains how*

liberal: that's not realistic, I meant without changing anything

@ancient_catbus OK, so what needs to change, and why haven't all y'all gotten that bit done yet so your solutions can be implemented? if it's so realistic, it should be in progress, at least.

Cards, please.

Get together with your neighbors. Stop using money. Much as you can.

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@cy @ancient_catbus I'm about as extracted from Capital/-ism as an American can get. Doesn't help. Half of my neighbors tolerate being here temporarily as a stepping stone to an actual house, and the other half is so emotionally, and logistically needy they drive the other half away. Not one of them has the capacity to think beyond hard cash, and not one took me up on my offer to just go vote--I personally canvassed, offering a ride.

That particular job is not a good fit for me.

It's the best I can think to do. Surely everywhere can't be like that. If you can't do it you can't do it. Though I'd do stuff like potlucks and activities instead of to vote driving offers. If they like cash, start a buyer's club? It's true Thatcher's evil plan to enslave the world by getting us caring about houses seems to be really effective.

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@cy @ancient_catbus All the association does together is National Night Out, & presumably vote. We sold all of them Thin Mints or Samoas (except for Wayne) in the way back. I'm dead tired of pulling teeth... while the people who have all theirs here are not looking to add events to their three jobs. there are a LOT of meh-paying jobs here, and these folks, if they're working (not (re)tired or disabled & disinterested), are seriously plugged into them.

Voting was my best shot at *something*.

National Night Out
Oh my god I'm so sorry xD
I'm dead tired of pulling teeth
You did exactly what I suggested, then! I don't know what to do if it doesn't work. If they can make the entire world work three jobs, we might just be doomed to extinction, the last generation of humanity. I hope we'd go extinct I mean, because 100% successful unopposed slavery forever is lots worse than simply not being born.

Best I can think for that kind of situation is finding the people who are terribly busy with many jobs, and teach them about the importance of malicious compliance, and secretly unionizing. It's silly to expect the people trapped inside the cage to go fetch the key though.