liberal: omg how do we defeat Trumpism

socialist: *explains how*

liberal: that's not realistic, I meant without changing anything

@ancient_catbus OK, so what needs to change, and why haven't all y'all gotten that bit done yet so your solutions can be implemented? if it's so realistic, it should be in progress, at least.

Cards, please.

@janisf The Democratic Party is wholly beholden to corporate interests and billionaire donors. They claim this is "the only way to win now", while they become wealthy and lose races.

Alternatively, they *could* embrace broadly popular policies like taxing billionaires or Medicare for All (and a few have), but that path is, let's say, lacking in profit motive.

@janisf Personally, I'm interested to see if the party survives much longer.
@j3rn Uh, OK....