Absolutely wild to see people online telling others to become *more individually responsible for their own food safety* when regulations are dismantled, instead of, you know, fighting to not dismantle food safety regulations.

There is a sickness in the USian psyche, and that sickness is the assumption that everything must be solved through independent effort. We leave so much potential unused and waste so much time and energy when we take communal solutions off the table every goddamn time.

It’s incredible that a lot of what we call modern living standards in the US absolutely depend on communal enforcement of standards and a pooling of funds to provide public goods and services. The Interstate system and state and local highways. The national air traffic system. GPS. Radio tech, including cellular, Bluetooth, WiFi.

Government-run organizations like OSHA, NTSB, and NHTSA keep us safe at a *fraction* of the cost it would take for everyone to lobby for their own improvements.

Public goods like local parks, national parks, beaches, and public town squares allow us to relax and live with dignity. They are all paid using pooled funds, and by keeping property away from capitalists’ hands.

There are *so many services* the government provides that make life safer, cheaper, and more efficient for everyone. And a typical USian views them all with utter disdain.

@drahardja

Small quibble--I wouldn't say a "typical" American doesn't value them. Statistically, most of us do. We're just quiet about it. It's the loudmouth assholes who get all the attention.

Me, I like a modern interconnected society. I like antibiotics and vaccines and traffic laws.

@drahardja it’s called civilisation.
And taxes should not be called taxes but a civilisation charge.

If you don’t like paying taxes go somewhere where there is no tax and no civilisation.

@peterbrown @drahardja One thing I’ve noticed since moving to the US is that a lot of people here really don’t get this concept of a civilisation. It’s a bit much for them.
@drahardja Are you sure the typical "USian" views them with disdain? A lot of people value them. We have a very loud minority here.

@peteorrall Let’s just say I find most of them take these things for granted. National parks and public beaches are viewed as something that have just always existed and not something that has to be created, maintained, and funded.

The one thing most people do about public goods and services is *complain* about them, and how they suck. Quite often I hear people talk about privatizing them so they “work better”, missing the point entirely that the nonprofit, public-service nature of these organizations is what makes them valuable.

@drahardja It's less a sickness and more a big chunk of propaganda pushed by people who own enough stuff to think that they'll benefit more from no regulations than they'll suffer, while knowing that recasting this as an individual responsibility thing means that it won't get done at all.
@drahardja Also the reason why me recycling every week doesn't matter, because the biggest polluters are unregulated.
@drahardja I haven’t seen that but wouldn’t be surprised

@Mulderc Just browse a bit longer…

I’ve seen several today.

@drahardja Millions brainwashed (for lack of a more succinct way of stating they've been covertly surveilled & influenced via microtargeting across all digital services) for the exclusive benefit of a tiny fraction of the wealthiest Americans.
@drahardja I agree that individualism is a curse that makes everything worse, but I also don't know what we can really do to save the government regulations, and hate depending on fascist capitalist governments when we could be depending on each other. When I say people should get into gardening if they can, I mean everyone who can make food should and should share it! I trust my neighbors so much more than any corporation or politician

@raphaelmorgan That’s fine, but it doesn’t scale.

We need to feed 340 million people safely. Not everyone should have to garden to eat safely. People living in dense urban apartments cannot garden. What would they do?

@drahardja oh we should absolutely also be fighting too
I'm just not all that optimistic about it working, because we've been fighting a bunch of stuff to no avail
So imo we should be also building community resilience wherever we can
And it depends on the dense urban apartment. I live in one and don't have a yard, but there are community gardens in the city and houses around it. If everyone does what we can, we can feed more people safely than if we don't even try 🤷

@drahardja

Destroying trust is a critical part in establishing an authoritarian dictatorship.

Making people fear, be uncertain, doubt the future, these aren't bugs of the #Republican agenda, they're full on features.

It is deliberate. A concerted effort to disassemble civilization from the inside out.

@drahardja @Ultraverified ....what you say is right. So, US voters showed, when give an obvious choice of electing a criminal charlatan+chronic liar or a sitting VP in a hugely successful administration+lawyer, it can't even get that right. Unlikely can find a way out of this...fascist tools used by the MAGA are so obvious, even to the apathetic, that not realizing they're being lied to, swindled, is a pretty hearty indictment of continued delusion & stupidity.
@Ultraverified @drahardja Truthfully, we shouldn’t cling to certainty so tightly anyway, since life is so full of uncertainty. We need to let go of our illusions of security, and make more independent efforts to better society…even as we strive for communal solutions.
@Ultraverified @drahardja
Also there is an autocratic schtick of telling the population: “Don’t trust your neighbors, only trust/listen/follow me.”

@drahardja i think we just assume that everything is going to fall apart and we've given up hope about doing anything about it tbh

also this is a very "you hate pancakes because you like waffles" take

@drahardja
Leaving side the individual effort required, how is an ordinary person expected to detect bacteria, identify them and decide if the number present is worrying or not? Likewise a host different contaminants?
@Chloeg