I’m going to say this slowly.

If Andrew Tate & his ilk were right about ANYTHING they’d have no audience.

Guys would listen briefly, apply advice, & be WAY too busy with their new gfs, side-pieces, & high income hustles to bother tuning in.

It’s the Tinder principle: if you’re happy, they lose a customer.

Their business model is your unending misery.

@Catvalente I think he has some good stuff to say. It’s not worth it to be triggered over things much at all. Just gotta move on and live life if you don’t like somebody
@westwarddrifter he’s a rapist and sex trafficker who tells boys women are nothing but trophies and they’re worth nothing if they’re not rich. There’s nothing good in that.

@Catvalente @westwarddrifter

well said.
Moreover the 'good things' the Tates say are part of the overall scheme. That's how radicalisation works. It starts with positive, normal conversations that look helpful and supportive. Then the poison starts, little by little, until it's not possible to distinguish between the two anymore.
It's an abusive pattern of behaviour after all.

@flamingored @Catvalente femcel moment. You are actively participating in the creation and perpetuation of the alt-right pipeline.

@westwarddrifter @Catvalente

Considering my job is in the field of gender-based violence prevention, I am pretty confident I know what I am talking about.
Maybe consider not being so quick at judging someone you know nothing about

@flamingored @Catvalente i’m sure it’s someone who works in that field. You would be interested in gaining support for your movement, not pushing people away. Is that fair? You’re pushing people away. Like I’m feeling more pro-Tate and more anti-feminist from this conversation

@westwarddrifter @Catvalente

Well, it's not a movement, it's a government paid role where we have strict compliance and reporting duties.

Anyways, I believe these are important conversations that go beyond a single social media post. If we were pushing men away we would have been out of a job long ago. What I want to stress is that the Tate brothers are no positive role models, and I find painting them as such is insulting to a lot of good men out there who deserve that title way way more.

@flamingored @Catvalente liberals are losing gen z because feminism is pushing them away. I like AT and I agree with some of the things he says. I denounce feminism and leftist ideology because I don’t like a lot of the things the push.

@westwarddrifter @Catvalente

Well, if the Tates (credibly accused of rape, sexual exploitation and human trafficking) are your kind, that's your choice. If you think they are better than those men working for gender and social justice (because feminism doesn't equal 'liberal women', right?), it's your choice.
I prefer male role models who are passionately pursuing a better world for everyone, it's more my thing. By the way, it's a great pleasure working with them full time; I recommend it.

@flamingored @Catvalente the Tates aren’t anti-women. They just aren’t buying into the misandristic vomit from liberals. Leftists don’t want gender equality, btw. Their messaging is anti-male.

@westwarddrifter @Catvalente

Have you seen the accusations against them? Would you care to explain to me how bragging about raping and sexually exploiting women is not anti-women? Because I really can't get it. What are the 'benefits' of being raped, exactly?

Also, there are video clips of him candidly admitting his scheme is using women to prey on vulnerable men and take their money and he doesn't care, because those men are losers anyway. He's anti-men too, just cares about himself.

@westwarddrifter @Catvalente

I'll leave this link here as an example; in case you want to take some time to explain how this behaviour is not anti-women please feel free. I will be all ears.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/andrew-tate-custody-arrest-romania-business-allegations-rcna64070

Andrew Tate said he broke a woman’s jaw ahead of Romanian arrest

Andrew Tate's arrest in Romania follows a years-long history of public statements from Tate and others about his business model and the role women played in it.

NBC News