How are Americans preparing for the Trumpist supply shock?

https://lemmy.world/post/28779358

How are Americans preparing for the Trumpist supply shock? - Lemmy.World

From what I’m reading, the troubles should start to pick up now; harbors being quieter, truckers not having work, … Are any shortages noticeable yet?

Toilet paper danger!

the shortages and disruptions have been happening and Trump is not the end all be all of all things just another puppet that was voted in selected by the elites

been an issue worse since covid and not just because of tariffs or what presidential puppet sits in the white house

no preparing for something when we have nothing to start preparing with in the first place

at least in the United States you have lots of people at the bottom, some in the upper middle, and very few elites that control it all

this guy has a wild comment history lol
One of the regular rabble rousers. He gets off on being an idiot.
What on earth did i just read? None of that was even coherent.
On the bright side, it probably wasn’t AI-generated.
THIS MAY WELL BE AN ACCOUNT COMPROMIZER BY DOGE

I think we do have a few things worth preparing for.

For most people, the federal government doesn’t really exist in their lives. They only see it at tax time. The rest of their lives are mandated by local and state government.

The regime has deranged the legislative and judicial branches now. It’s all down to states. Unless a better framework is proposed fast.

I think Bookchin’s theories stood pretty good test in Rojava.

Most importantly stock up on toilet papers
A lot of toilet paper is actually manufactured in the US which is why us shutting things down during Covid impacted supply so much, the tariffs won’t impact TP since it’s domestic production.

Toilet paper shortage in stores was a global phenomenon. It’s seems like during times of crisis, people buy toilet paper. The grocery stores just weren’t prepared for everybody to buy toilet paper at the same time. They couldn’t keep up with the restocking.

There was no real shortage in toilet paper in terms of production.

It was a global impact, the us is a significant exporter of toilet paper. 99% of our domestic use is locally manufactured AND we export a considerable volume to the rest of the world.

Believe it or not TP is big business here in the US and one of a few industries where we still have a lot of traditional manufacturing jobs. Georgia-Pacific and Kimberly Clark for example.

Georgia-Pacific LLC is an American pulp and paper company based in Atlanta, Georgia,[2] and is one of the world's largest manufacturers and distributors of tissue, pulp, paper, toilet and paper towel dispensers, packaging, building products and related chemicals, and other forest products—largely made from its own timber.[3][4] Since 2005, it has been an independently operated and managed subsidiary of Koch Industries. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia-Pacific

Kimberly-Clark shares are mainly held by institutional investors (The Vanguard Group, BlackRock, State Street Corporation, and others).[32] Its subsidiaries include Kimberly-Clark Professional.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly-Clark

Georgia-Pacific - Wikipedia

during times of crisis, people buy toilet paper

Well yes. How else would you clean the fan when shit hits it?

Price of other tariffed products, equipment goes up mean your expenses are more even if your business is not affected by tariffs. ie prices will go up even for non-tariffs items.

If trump only tariffed imported chicken, but my business is selling pen and pencils which are not tariffed, I would still have to raise prices of pen and pencil because the price of my food just went up, I would need to make more money to eat chicken meat and have the same purchasing power of other goods and services.

I’ve converted all my investments into girl scout cookies because they (1) are high value And can be traded for goods and services; and (2) can be eaten when no food is available. 😉

girl scout cookies … are high value

I hate that this is how you found out, but…

www.walmart.com/ip/…/11997740

Robot or human?

at the moment not enough to cause panic buying or draw significant media attention. Select goods have begun to creep up in price, and freight industry reports show projected decreases in demand, but not really.
I am really curious about how much media attention the consequences of the Orange Man’s moves will get. Fascism is at work and the first thing fascists do is get control of the media.
We’re not. All of the panic I’ve seen is on Lemmy. I haven’t seen it anywhere else, even reddit.
Huh. Haven’t actually seen panic on Lemmy. I only see it on social media accounts of economists and logistics people.
Damn experts, what do they know?
Not surprisingly, Vance said words exactly to that effect during the vice-presidential debate. No one can say that they did not see this coming.
The sentiment on r/wallstreetbets is that “we’re cooked”, but the market is still “running on hopium” that Trump will fold.
They kicked us off of Reddit, dude.

You’re posting from a tankie instance. I think there might be more to the story. Or not, reddit is indeed fickle, I once caught a perma ban for saying that the pedophile mohammed raped a 9 year old and was a pedophile.

So who knows?

This you?

Fuck off

Yes. That’s me.

No. I won’t be fucking off. I might switch to mbin at some point, but I’ll still be here

.world is not the tankie instance but they leak out sometimes. Youre thinking of .dbzer and .ml
The other dude, the one I replied to, is posting from Lemmy.ml
I didn’t know it was considered a tankie instance when I signed up, and I’m not a tankie, fwiw.
Regardless of whether you think something catastrophic will happen tomorrow, next month, next year or never, it’s a smart plan to have an emergency stash of shelf-stable food and drinking water to last 72 hours per person in your household for whatever natural or manmade disaster.
This! I don’t even live in a disaster prone area, but I always make sure we’d be fine without power/water for a few days at least.
My grandma’s spirit would haunt me from the dead if it found out I only had 72 hours of food in my home.
Food is easy, water is harder
I’m one of those dirty wasteful Italians who buys bottled water, I’ve always got ~50 litres of water at home, and I live in the dampest part of Italy anyway
I have a few dozen gallons of water stashed in my basement but I also purchased three water filters which I can use to get water out of my lake or any stream. I have Sawyers and Katadins.

it’s a smart plan to have an emergency stash of shelf-stable food and drinking water to last 72 hours per person in your household for whatever natural or manmade disaster.

I have plenty of food sitting around, but realistically, 72 hours without food isn’t going to be an issue for an non-infant who doesn’t have some kind of serious medical conditions. Probably make most people in the US healthier.

I’ve fasted for over a week for the hell of it, and people have gone much longer. This guy did it for over a year.

Water is a much-less-forgiving resource.

Angus Barbieri's fast - Wikipedia

frequently visiting Maryfield Hospital for medical evaluation

Maryfield Hospital - Wikipedia

Sure. Most people probably have a bit of fresh food to rely on in the immediate term if disaster hits, but by the time you get to it, you should have a gauge on how long you will need to make that 72 hours supply actually last. Water is also vital but it does take up more space so as a baseline 72 hours of each is a good starting point.
I feel awful for the genuinely good people living there. But to all of the people that either voted for this or sat back and did nothing to prevent this: I hope you fucking suffer like never before.
Well, the assholes in charge over here dismantled FEMA, a national disaster relief organization. And there are some pretty Republican regions that regularly need its assistance from hurricanes and other weather disasters.
“May you have the day you voted for.”
Don’t worry the entire world will suffer not just the people you don’t like in the US.

This has certainly been true in the past, but I’m seeing the next few of these will affect the rest of the world less than it did in the past. Other nations are decoupling from USD as a reserve currency so they are a bit more insulated from US economic swings. Further, China will have extra manufacturing capacity since the USA is effectively blocked for many of its goods. This means that China will (likely already is) finding other markets in the world for these goods and others producible from the excess manufacturing capacity. Increased supplied will mean reduced prices everywhere else in the world besides the USA.

Worldwide petroleum prices will likely fall because of reduced demand from the USA. Food prices may be one place prices rise with the reduced production from the ongoing war of Russian aggression in Ukraine, and the voluntary reduction of food imports from the USA in response to USA tariffs on imports. So this will place a strain on non-USA based food producing countries.

I say all of this as an American appalled at what trump is doing to the USA and the world.

I got a hefty stockpile of food. Probably gonna grab some extras of random consumables in the next couple days. Maybe an extra kilo of 3D printer filament mostly just for fun but also in case I need some random plastic whosywhatsit that can’t be found any more.

I got a passport, and am wrapping up a degree in nursing.

It’s not necessarily my intention to jump ship as soon as I graduate, but knowing that it’s an option will be a great comfort.

Other than that, I stopped eating eggs.

We always need more nurses in Sweden, I imagine it’s the same in other countries too.
How about generic guys with no special talents in particular but the gift of gab?
For Sweden specifically that could be tricky at the moment with our current government.
Italy sorely needs nurses as well.
Do you have dual citizenship? Just because you have a passport doesn’t mean you can just flee the country forever.

No - that strikes me as an end game move. It’ll enable me to cross the border, and if shit hits the fan that’ll be good enough to then figure out the next steps.

I would need to do WAY more research on prospective point-B’s before diving into dual citizenship.

That said, I don’t really know shit about expatriating, so if anything I just said stands out as glaringly wrong, please do school me!

Dual citizenship is probably a bit premature, I doubt you need to concern yourself with that just yet. I would probably have a few places picked out as likely options for a work visa though, after doing some basic research into pay grade vs cost of living and how much you like/would fit in with the local culture.

You probably already have a vague idea of which countries you might enjoy living it.

You’re right about this - as a US / Canadian dual citizen, getting a new citizenship is quite an ordeal and not everyone who applies is approved. The nursing experience you mentioned in a separate comment might be enough to qualify for a work permit and then permanent residence. I know that various provincial governments up here are quietly putting in immigration policies that severely cut immigration numbers, but focus heavily on recruiting healthcare workers.
You don’t need citizenship to live in a country, just a work visa