Humans independently edit Wikipedia for humans. They don’t have any Ads or cannot be bullied into removing content. Wikipedia is free from AI slop. No wonder tech bros with AI companies want to eliminate it so that their fake AI text generator can show or push propaganda. Please do not let Wikipedia die. It is an independent source and far more reliable than Gen AI companies. It is a real shame that it comes to this.

@nixCraft

Wikipedia is proof of anarchy.

@unruly @nixCraft

So still trying to understand anarchy.

Is this it?

'...written and maintained by a community of volunteers, known as Wikipedians, through open collaboration and the wiki software MediaWiki. Founded by Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger on January 15, 2001, Wikipedia has been hosted since 2003 by the Wikimedia Foundation, an American nonprofit organization funded mainly by donations from readers.' - wiki (on wiki)

@f800gecko @nixCraft

Yes.

I'm no expert though. I think it has to do with simple facts of consent, as by volunteers, and decentralized unfederated control, just like Mastodon too.

@unruly @nixCraft

I find the benefactors part perplexing.

@f800gecko @nixCraft

In what way?

@unruly @nixCraft

Well, I can't help thinking of the take of house cats as anarchists: fully independent and self-governing while oblivious to the larger structure and benefactors they depend upon for food, lodging, etc.

Sans structure, they return to a feral state in the wild, where instinct and biological imperative prevail and set boundaries.

The question is then: what initial conditions produce such a rich, organized environment and how does it remain stable over time under anarchy?

@f800gecko @nixCraft

Good insights and questions. Thanks. I must say I am not someone who claims to be an anarchist nor am I any sort of expert on it. So, I appreciate learning together about all things.

I think that cats, humans, and all creatures of the animal kingdom evolved in ways unique to their species, no less so to their social behaviour and organizatiion. Human culture, foresight, hindsight, passing on and growing knowledge is unique and naturally selected for.

 

@f800gecko @nixCraft

While a hegemonic culture is relatively stable, it can be subject to disruption, such as when it is material based and unsustainable, for example, unbridled capitalism. Some sort of extremist anarchism is likely idealistic in my opinion, as it would be easily disrupted. So the only sort of anarchism that would be more firmly entrenched would have to be a compromise between the extreme of completely centrally controlled society and uncontrolled.

@f800gecko @nixCraft

Perhaps a democratic decentralized model is the closest realistic sustainable form.

@unruly @nixCraft

This reply reminds me why I like mastodon and why I've stuck with it despite the many frustrations and oddities to be dealt with.

It’s nice to feel flattered (many of us here struggle to accept praise in r/l), but beyond that and above all, it’s refreshing simply to be able to have sane conversations somewhere :-)

So, thank you for making my day.

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