Ok, I need an alternative to Komoot for #CrossBorderRail 🚲🗺️ this summer

@spacehobo suggested cycle.travel that looks good, but on two shorter trips I’ll evaluate this and other options

NEEDS
- route planning and saving on a computer and easily on an iPhone
- ability to share routes with others with a link, and export routes as GEOjson or equiv file
- turn by turn navigation (I have an old iPhone on a handlebar mount)

IMPORTANT
- works anywhere in the EU, and Moldova and edge of Ukraine

IDEALLY
- community driven and/or open source

And sorry, solutions only in a web browser are unlikely good enough. An app based solution for saved routes strikes me as important.

And why am I leaving Komoot behind? As @osma documented, the founders sold out to big money enshittifiers 😭

Based on suggestions from a bunch of people, 3 apps are to be assessed more closely

cycle.travel
Ride with GPS
Organic Maps

First test: home to a friend’s place in a neighbouring village

There are two routes: a longer flat route along the canal, and a shorter hilly route on a road with cars

cycle.travel gives me the canal
The other two the hilly road

First win for cycle.travel

@jon For my cycle holidays from NL to Norway, Spain and Serbia I created .gpx-files in Openrouteservice and transferred them to my Garmin Edge.
Depending on the type of bicycle you choose, it suggests different routes and it also gives a lot of info on surface, hill grades etc.
https://classic-maps.openrouteservice.org
Openrouteservice Maps

Openrouteservice is a open source route planner with plenty of features for car, heavy vehicles, hiking and cycling.

@jon In general this worked very well, except for the Slovakia - Hungary border where it did send me to an overgrown dirt track.
@jon And for the Netherlands itself I use https://en.routeplanner.fietsersbond.nl/
Homepage | Fietsersbond Routeplanner

Fietsersbond Routeplanner