DHS is claiming on social media that assaults against ICE have gone up 300% which is honestly a great start, folks. I’m proud.
Letting people know that ICE will send them to a foreign torture prison for the rest of their lives is a great way to motivate them to fight to the death when ICE comes for them.
An easy way to reduce assaults against ICE officers would be to #AbolishICE
@HeavenlyPossum
Have we ever tried a fully funded immigration system?
The GOPux gag has been underfunding things they don't like & privatize whatever parts they can, the long term goal

@visikde

Borders are murder. My goal is not to better fund immigration controls; my goal is the abolition of borders.

@visikde @HeavenlyPossum
What the fuck do you think ICE has been doing with the $3.4 goddamn billion dollars that Biden gave them?

@visikde @HeavenlyPossum

I take “immigration system” and the ICE as not the same concept. I mean, at the moment, our failure of an “immigration system” is maybe mostly the harmful ICE, but seriously not a part we need or want or would have to have with a properly funded good system in place.

Um… what does ICE stand for anyway? I can’t think it out 😅

@missladyartemis @visikde @HeavenlyPossum We spend more than 100 times as much on militarizing the border and immigration enforcement than we do on “legal” immigration and citizenship services.

@missladyartemis @visikde @HeavenlyPossum

I'm old enough to remember when ICE didn't exist.

@lackthereof @missladyartemis @HeavenlyPossum
A time before the Patriot Act chewed at the constitution
A time before Enemy Combatants were whisked off to black sites
Shrub lying us into a couple of 20 year wars has been corrosive to our systems
@visikde A time before the AUMF enabled unilateral forever war
@lackthereof
Another infamous milestone Truman signing the National Security Act in 1947 legitimizing the secret police CIA & NSA
@HeavenlyPossum i really dont understand how there havent been shootouts already

@rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum That we know of...

This is the good old USA... there are many guns, lots of shootings and no one in The Media TM seem to care about it any more 🤔 👀

@Aviva_Gary @rubixhelix

Shootouts, at least, I would expect them to cover.

@HeavenlyPossum @Aviva_Gary i think a lot is slipping through...
@rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum @Aviva_Gary
I think if shootouts were happening it would lend credibility to the "gang member" lies they are telling and they would tell us about it to get more funding
@RnDanger @HeavenlyPossum @Aviva_Gary yeah true its probably a milestone on their road to fascism chart
@RnDanger @rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum @Aviva_Gary I've seen it argued that most gun owners in the US own lots of guns, so when they talk about guns per capita, those guns aren't evenly distributed. And I expect most of those gun owners are not the people ICE is coming for.
@RnDanger @rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum @Aviva_Gary Er, most guns are owned by people who collect lots of guns.
@foolishowl @rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum @Aviva_Gary
A lot of homes have a few guns
A few homes have a lot of guns
@Aviva_Gary @HeavenlyPossum lol ICE must be highly skilled and professional to apprehend so many extremely dangerous criminals and gang members without anyone firing a round /s

@rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum

There haven't been shootouts already that we've been told about. How many ICE pigs have had "unfortunate accidents" while off the clock? It might make local news, but national(ist) news doesn't cover it, especially if it was a Luigi style op. If they did report it they'd blame it on soap opera, not politics. They don't want to start a fad.

That's speculation on my part, of course, but I've studied these miscreants in some depth for over half a century, so at worst it's an educated guess.

@rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum

Opportunity, Identification and situational unreadiness - that covers most cases of these kidnappings going down without much resistance.

1. First you gotta be carrying a firearm or have one near and either be direct target or bystander who is seeing it develop in real time - Opportunity

2. Identifying then sets up a pause and in general, a bystander with rod probably wouldn't intervene against unidentified and or 'refuse to identify self', even less so if they bark out they're with ICE. If you haven't decided you're going to step up with hot lead ahead of time in any situation like that, you get one more pause before you do so with the opportunity.

3. Most the folks getting kidnapped are...I hate to say it like this...soft targets who are cased/reconned on their habits/routines before kidnapping, and so the initiative is with ICE, so even if you are a hard target, you might get boxed in a place where you can't or will be slow to draw. The scads of videos out there of students and workers getting kidnapped almost all have them taken by surprise in their normal routines and can't react - its shock. So bystander with beef is more likely.

@rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum

I mean, honestly, I've worked out what I would do if I see something like going down, and I don't carry any weapons and not a physically confrontational person at resting state, and it's all bad, but better me to stop a death sentence and take my lumps whatever they may be.

I think about George Floyd and how a flying leap kick from any number in the crowd that had gathered could have stopped that shit. But they didn't.

@ciggysmokebringer @HeavenlyPossum yeah i agree, getting surrounded by four cop looking dudes if you havent ever been in a similar situation or had any formal training has to appear more of a wtf situation than a fight or die situation, especially if you are a generally peaceful person, like its so insane that it has to be a mistake

@rubixhelix @HeavenlyPossum Well, tomorrow is the 250th anniversary of "The Shot heard around the World".

When British government troops shot at American protesters in Concord, and the patriots started shooting back. Starting the American Revolutionary War.

The world is listening to hear any peep.

@HeavenlyPossum
The fact they want to deport even citizens probably isn't helping the assaults either.

@HeavenlyPossum and that's assuming it's actually ICE.

IIUC there have already been copycat kidnappings. You'd think ICE would care about that and want to crack down on it, if they valued their own safety.

@HeavenlyPossum Seriously, in light of that, I think a reasonable court could and should accept a self defense argument in defense of using deadly force.
@HeavenlyPossum When they kick in your front door, how ya gonna come? With your hands in the air or….
@HeavenlyPossum knowing these pigs an assault to them means "someone said abolish ice at me :("
@HeavenlyPossum I'm surprised ICE staff haven't been shot at yet when bundling people into unmarked vans while wearing mufti and covering their faces. Mob kidnappings are indistinguishable
@HeavenlyPossum I am still waiting for these 2nd Amendment types who say they need their AR-15's to fight a tyrannical government. It is here, boys. Now's your chance!
@scotec65 @HeavenlyPossum
You better believe the leftist 2A folks are taking this seriously.
@HeavenlyPossum I was talking to my cleaning lady today (a naturalized citizen) about the state of things and we were speculating about how long it will be beside someone shoots an ICE agent. Probably not very long.
@HeavenlyPossum yes. But I'm pretty sure we can do better 🤘
@HeavenlyPossum but we can do better! Much better!
We need those numbers to be 900% by the end of next week! And every agent afraid to leave their home or report to week by the week after that!

@rootwyrm

Do…do you not remember accusing me of destructive fanaticism and delusions because I used an analogy that you didn’t like, a day ago? Why are you in my mentions acting like we’re mates?

@HeavenlyPossum

Even the longest journey begins with a single step.

@HeavenlyPossum to be fair ICE have brought this on themselves, because it now no longer matters if you have done something wrong, it now no longer matters if you've done something illegal, it now no longer matters that you're a US citizen with all of your required papers and documents, the reality is if they take you into custody you're going to be deported to a foreign concentration camp anyway, guilty or not, so you might as well fight because it's the only way you will stay alive and safe...