Possibly the weirdest planet yet discovered?

Newfound world 2M1510 (AB) b appears to orbit not one but two stars...and they are actually failed stars, known as brown dwarfs...and the planet orbits sideways, in a unique up-and-down polar orbit.

https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso2508/ #space #science #astronomy #nature

"Big surprise": astronomers find planet in perpendicular orbit around pair of stars

Astronomers have found a planet that orbits at an angle of 90 degrees around a rare pair of peculiar stars. This is the first time we have strong evidence for one of these ‘polar planets’ orbiting a stellar pair. The surprise discovery was made using the European Southern Observatory’s Very Large Telescope (VLT).

www.eso.org
@coreyspowell talk about a three body problem!
@marklfilteau @coreyspowell it looks like it’s orbiting the stars’ barycenter
@marklfilteau @coreyspowell This is hardly the place, but I still get irrationally mad at a supposedly very hard science story being founded on the conceit that intelligent life could evolve under such conditions. Maybe because recent years have made our very "boring" blue marble feel all the more precious.
@coreyspowell Why is the orbit weird, because it’s not on the same plane? Edit: Thanks everyone, I appreciate the answers.

@andrewornot - the planet's orbit is weird because it's shooting through the center of each star's orbit - the red ellipse is shooting through each blue ellipse.

[EDIT: no, it's probably not doing that.]

@johncarlosbaez @andrewornot are stars orbiting these points then? Or what are they orbiting
@GuillaumeRossolini @johncarlosbaez @andrewornot Their barycenter — common center of gravity.

@slowenough @johncarlosbaez @andrewornot I don’t get any of this 😆

I’m not going to use the correct words because I’m not a scientist, also not English native language

Are we seeing the planet’s orbit as a slice (looks squished because perspective but it’s really more circular) or as a plane (and it’s really this elliptical in shape)

If it’s a more round shape, I’m guessing that one part of the red orbit is close to the camera and the other is on the other side, and none of these crosses the blue orbits at all, and it would kinda make more sense?

And I still don’t get the two stars’ orbits as they don’t have a common center, there’s just an overlap

@GuillaumeRossolini - it's impossible to be sure from the picture whether the planet's orbit (in red) is a circle that looks squished due to perspective, or a long thin ellipse. I agree with you that that a circle makes more sense, because then it never gets close to either star. I had thought it was a long thin ellipse!

As for the star's orbits, they look fine to me. They have a common focus. The focus of an ellipse is not in the middle, it's at one end! For example here's a planet going around a star in a long elliptical orbit:

@GuillaumeRossolini @slowenough @johncarlosbaez @andrewornot

It's like if the suns were clasping each other's hands in front.

And then the planet's orbit is like a big flat plate between the two of them, centered on their clasped hands.

Then just throw out the metaphor because the suns are moving around their mutual center too 😂

@GuillaumeRossolini @andrewornot - as @slowenough said, the two stars are orbiting each other. Thus, they're moving around their common center of gravity. It's right in the middle of this picture:

@johncarlosbaez @GuillaumeRossolini @andrewornot @slowenough
That makes sense, but I think the stars are shown too large?

For the center to be their combined center of gravity, they would have to pass in the middle at the same time, which at this scale looks like an almost collision. At least an exchange of matter.

@leeloo @johncarlosbaez @andrewornot @slowenough this picture looks like an artist representation of the diagram in the original article (Fig. 5), not visually accurate?

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adu0627#F5

@GuillaumeRossolini @johncarlosbaez @andrewornot @slowenough
The diagram shows the planet the same size as the suns, so definitely not to scale.

But then again, they never are, because space is huge.

@andrewornot @coreyspowell As far as I understand it, the stars orbit each other "horizontally" and the planet orbits the two stars "vertically".

@coreyspowell

I occasionally repost @threebodybot when I think the orbits are interesting. This beats everything it's done.

Edit: To be fair, Random three-body problem is set in the plane. Maybe someday there'll be a three dimensional problem.

@coreyspowell when’s the next chaotic era?
@coreyspowell was just thinking about planets in binary star systems (Inversions by Iain M. Banks takes place on a planet on one).
@coreyspowell The universe has one of *everything*
@coreyspowell pretty great day for exoplanet news!
@coreyspowell wait till they discover the planet on which Kevin Hart is supposed to be funny. NASA may get cut first.
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two suns... and no sunscreen
@coreyspowell Wonder what a sundial on this planet would have to look like.
@KanaMauna @coreyspowell It might be possible to design #sundials that would give you both the time of day relative to the axial rotation of the planet *and* a calendar date relative to the orbital motion of the two stars.
@coreyspowell If there are people on the planet I bet they get really hot summers and really cold winters
A Voyage to Arcturus, by David Lindsay

The Standard Ebooks edition of A Voyage to Arcturus: One man’s journey through a psychedelic alien landscape of philosophy, religion, life, and death.

@coreyspowell I really want to know what sunrise/sunset would look like on a planet like this.
@coreyspowell I wonder how the sky looks like on this planet, had been cool to see a simulation of the day sky.
@coreyspowell It's the Dancing Banana planet.

@coreyspowell

First thing that goes through my mind is; We have found the TriSolarins!

#ThreeBodyProblem #cixinliu

@coreyspowell OMG Clippy is a celestial object?

@coreyspowell

Funny thing.

They discovered this accidentally. As such, they can't tell how big the planet is, nor how long the orbital period is.

They can only calculate an "Uncertainty-Principle"-type ratio ... if the planet has X mass, then it has a Y orbit ... if 2X mass then 2Y orbit, etc.

This isn't in the article: need to dig into the actual scientific paper.

I was curious about the planet's potential habitability.

Result? No freakin' clue.

Still a cool system. Gravity is weird.

@coreyspowell So are we going to call this Tattooine?
@coreyspowell Finally, a place to drink my blue milk!