sunkawitko@gfkdsgn The visions of the #Zeitgeist movement around Peter Joseph seemed to me personally a bit like a possible fulfilment of the content of what the internationalist #anarchists wanted to achieve. Especially since the so-called Zeitgeist did not envisage the creation of some hierarchical government, but only the collective management of resources in a society without money. I suppose many anarchists would probably disagree with me, but I never actually heard them articulate what more concrete form their ideal anarchist society should take, they just said what they wanted to eliminate.
And on the other hand, the Zeitgeist movement has claimed that it is not #communism, but I think the definition of communism is fully met by the content of what it wants to achieve.
Vector HugoI think Peter Joseph spoke in great lengths about his vision how a “ideal society” could be. Listen carefully...
https://youtu.be/kIqU3hSKHag
AFAIK he never claimed to be Mr. Zeitgeist, so I wonder why you @sunkawitko seem to perceive him like that.
Revolution Now! with Peter Joseph | Ep. 55 | "Civil Rights Regression, Integral & Lee Camp"
@gfkdsgn From what I understand some of the people who are trying to develop or promote the Zeitgeist movement claim that the movement has no official structure in their view, such as "movement leader", "official membership" etc - they see it as an movement that people can just subscribe or go by its journey. But at the same time these people see Peter Joseph as one of the pioneers of the ideas of the movement. And you yourself have linked his name to the concept of "Zeitgeist" when you write "Peter #Zeitgeist Joseph" - so thats the reason why I see the man as part of the movement, even if I don't know how concretely he himself takes his position in this.