tfmAre there any Lemmy/Mbin instances by women for women?
Like women only or hosted by women? Based on the selfhosted poll I’m guessing there is a 5% there is.
hankskyjames777Both of them
melroyI feel discriminated
My apologies as I didnt intend to
Not women only but women centric and with additional moderation protection. And yeah, I’d also say that women should administer and moderate such an instance.
Define “women”
mercPeople who cover their drinks when you’re around.
AzzuEveryone is a woman on this blessed day!
Speak for yourself.
I am one with everything, so by speaking about myself, I speak about the whole of reality. Checkmate!
i don’t go to bars or anything, so i guess everyone is a man?
People who tell you they’re women.
LibertyLizardYou don’t know what a woman is? Or is this some kind of attempt at trolling?
I’m asking if the Reddit user is looking for cis women or is open to trans. A lot of lemmy could be considered women run if trans women are included in the request.
I think maybe it would have been clearer to just ask this question directly and openly. The way you phrased it is the way a lot of bigots do to try to start trouble.
hopeleftNo one would understand this is what you intended if you use a transphobic dogwhistle for that.
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SjmarfCommunity-wise there’s [email protected]
dandelionunfortunately I think this is the current answer, at least on Lemmy.
unfortunately?
Meaning there isn’t an instance for women, nor are there multiple communities - as far as I know there’s just this one community.
oh, I see.
swelter_sparkI think there’s also We are women on lemmy.ml and Women on lemmy.world?
sorry, I should have clarified that I was talking about active communities (where users regularly visit and interact)
This seems like a very good niche for someone willing to do it. Problematic accounts could get a site-wide ban instead of each woman having to ban someone herself.
Niche? Bruh, they’re half of the population lmao
Unfortunately it is niche right now in the fediverse based on the stats. That could change but probably requires a different approach to achieve.
Bobby TurkalinoNicole is on a mission to single-handedly skew those stats
I would guess that most women wouldn’t feel the need to be on a woman-focused Lemmy instance for their main / only account. But, some might want an alt account to discuss certain things there.
OtterWhile this won’t be the case with everyone, it was mentioned a few times in a post I made here a long while back
I’m a woman, and make no attempt to hide that fact in my posts. That said, I also don’t personally have much interest in talking about being a woman, so don’t sub to any of those places you linked.
Over on Reddit I just sort of let people assume I was male a lot of the time, since it wasn’t really relevant to what we were talking about. But from the start on Lemmy I’ve made sure to call out incorrect assumptions, downvote and give a talking to people stereotyping or being misogynistic, etc etc. And the more of us (of all genders) that make that same decision, the better things get
Discussion on 'Missing women on Lemmy and decentralised networks' - Lemmy.ca
I saw this post [https://slrpnk.net/post/4052534] from [email protected] [/c/[email protected]], and I wanted to share it here to get more discussion because it is important. I’m hoping that this post won’t crowd out any voices, and while I’ve tried to keep this post productive and inclusive, please call out any concerns and use the post if you prefer :) The post I linked had concerns about increasing misogyny and sexism, how there are fewer women on Lemmy, and how that might be a part of the problem. — Before I start, for those that don’t want to hear u/otter [/u/[email protected]] ramble again, some communities that you should could join and participate in: . ::: spoiler Communities related to Women - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] ::: ::: spoiler Communities related to Men - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] - [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] ::: . There are also communities like [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] and [email protected] [/c/[email protected]], and you can find more areas I didn’t think about on lemmyverse.net [https://lemmyverse.net/communities]. — So one thing I wanted to comment was that there may be more women on here than you might think! Lemmy is anonymous, and the issue of low activity affects the men oriented communities the same way as the women oriented ones. By participating in the communities above, we can make that more apparent (ex. Mastodon has a pretty nice blend of people). By saying this, I don’t want to ignore legitimate concerns, but rather it’s because I find statements like “this platform doesn’t have X group” discourages X group from participating. — Now, in order to make this problem better, I think it might help to highlight the benefits and work on the risks: ### Benefits to highlight - Backups: Lemmy allows for an official backup of existing communities for women. If the Reddit one is shut down (it DOES happen), the Lemmy one would be available for regrouping - Inclusive: Lots of people left Reddit for privacy/ads/accessibility reasons, including women. Everyone deserves a space - Empowering: The Fediverse makes it easy to run an instance owned, funded, moderated, and operated by women ### Risks to work on: - Doxxing & Deletion: This affects everyone, but it might affect women more/in different ways. When there is something you want to get rid of, say because of doxxing/stalking/creepy behaviour, it’s much harder to do that with federation. Some of this can be fixed by fixing federation, and some of it might come down to crowdsourcing legal help. Past that I don’t know… - Moderation: This is Lemmy specific. Women-oriented communities attract trolls, as do other community areas, and Lemmy moderation needs work. ### Growing communities - General community building ideas apply here as well - Trust would help in this case. Getting in touch with existing community moderators on Reddit, and setting up a parallel / sister community setup would encourage people to post here. - Anything else? :)
That’s pretty brave of you. It’s a lot of work to fight people’s assumptions, and I’m sure it results in harassment.
But, you’re right that things will never change if women don’t do that. It’s a chicken and egg thing. Nobody wants to be the first to do it, because whoever’s first gets harassed the most. But, if enough people do it, it won’t be abnormal anymore.
Good luck, and thanks for trying to make women on the internet more normal.
FaceDeerI don't know of any "men only" instances, the fact that it's gender-specific is niche rather than the specific gender.
Same reason womens magazines are more popular than mens magazines and womens subreddits and websites are more popular than mens.
Maybe one day we’ll have full equality and it’ll be weird to think of “women’s spaces” as something that’s necessary. But it’s very much so today.
I don’t believe they actively intended to exclude anyone, but there is/was Dull Men’s Club, and I believe they’ve recently rebranded to “Dullsters”.
Die4Everwe all know there’s currently only 1 chick in the fediverse
P in that case Nicole’s DMs are the Lemmy women’s sub.
There WAS 1 chick in the fediverse.
The story took a dark turn recently.
AlkIt’s not niche being a woman obviously. What’s niche is having a community exclude 50% of the population. Nothing wrong with it, but it is niche.
Zero women have tried to make one so far regardless of how many would use a new instance regardless.
Lady Butterfly There’s [email protected] we started a little over a month ago and recently hit 1000 members
this is a bit of how Blahaj works as I understand it, so it’s a good model - if anything I would think Blahaj might already be poised for this kind of instance-level protection of women
EDIT:
one of the Blahaj guidelines does include removing bigotry, including sexism, and would be a candidate for a safe space for women:
Inclusion and Acceptance
Embracing inclusion and acceptance means listening when people tell you who they are and what their needs are. It means not telling people that you know their experiences better than they do. It means not gatekeeping experiences of identities of others. It means no bigotry such as racism, sexism, anti LGBT commentary, ableism etc. It means doing your best to ensure that you don’t over-talk the voices of folk who don’t share your privileges.
That said, the women spaces on Blahaj are mostly for trans women, so a more general women’s community would be nice.
Lemmy needs block lists users can subscribe to like they can on BlueSky, it would make a huge difference imo.
beehaw.org aspire to be nice, friendly diverse and safe. But they're more towards nice, not women. And we have lemmy.blahaj.zone for queer folks. To my knowledge, there isn't a place aimed towards women. Maybe heehaw is the closest... Still not really a fit.
Beehaw.org is nice, Heehaw.org is the closest, Hoohaw.org is the promised land
Owlhow would they stop men from participating?
There is no resonable way to do that.
The only way I could see it being done while perserving some kind of anonymity would be to have a defederated instance, where members are invite-only, where members can invite their friends to join, there by verifying that there are no men joining.
Unfortunately, there is no good way of verifying the gender of a person that you don’t meet outside of a forum.
I’ve mentioned this before in other threads that seek a women-centric Lemmy option, but there was at least one secret community on Reddit like that. Invitees’ post histories were vetted before an invite was sent, both to find women specifically, but also to prevent trolls.
I don’t know exactly how they did it, all I know is that I got an invite one day and found the most open, comforting community I’d ever seen online. It was a place where we could talk about anything from silly stories that made us smile, to complaining about specific issues with bras, all without fear of trolls hijacking the thread, or turning an ordinary thing for us into something sexual.
I miss it.
Sounds fantastic, I hope that you can find a community like that again.
Vetting the post history is probably the only realistic way of doing it, it is time consuming, I am sad that it is needed, but if that is what it it takes it is at least doable.
I wish you and all women online good luck in finding a community like that, everyone needs a good community to enjoy!
I don’t see a reason to deny men from participating.
Why should they want to do that? That’s not how most sites for women work!
AdrianTheFrogBlahaj.zone is an instance aimed at queer people, but it doesn’t have to prevent non-queer people from participating. I would imagine an instance aimed at women to be similar.
Just make it obvious that it’s meant for women and most men will exclude themselves
PsychadelligoatOn a public forum?
Lol you wish
It works at bars, play music made by women and the Nazis will find another place to sieg heil each other without even being to be told
ban the rowdy ones lmao
SnoopyI find this idea pretty cool, i hope they will succeed to achieve that. Imo, we lack diversity on the forum6erse except maybe mastodon.
It would provide an additional layer, another governance, they could also benefit a lot from local community and can check vote...Other have already mentionned good example with blahaj, beehaw.
On the other hand, it will render the instance more visible.
But like what even is a social media for women? I wasn’t aware the ones we currently have were for men
reddit has /r/TwoXChromosomes which is one of my favorite subs. It’s a general womens subreddit, and though it obviously leans feminist it’s not its main purpose. It welcomes all genders, but remains a womens space.
The fediverse could really use that energy.
There’s also /r/WitchesVsPatriarchy which is also very strictly woman-centered.
Damn women appropriating witchdom. Excluding boywitches just reaffirms the patriarchy’s gendering of magic. It’s re-inventing the same gender roles.
AshtearNeither the WvP subreddit nor the Discord excludes men from identifying as witches or from participating in discussions.