My ravioli bowl won't unstick. Took about an hour of prying, and still I couldn't unstick the plate.

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My ravioli bowl won't unstick. Took about an hour of prying, and still I couldn't unstick the plate. - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

Cool one slightly while warming the other.
Probably sit the bowl in warm water with ice on the plate. That will increase the pressure inside and aide in the separation.

Would you want the opposite?

I thought heading the bowl will expand it slightly and increase the suction, cooling it will shrink it and reduce it.

Hot air expands and cold air contracts. You want the air in the bowl to be hot so it’s not creating negative pressure.
I did not think of that, thanks!

Its the same thing that happens with fridges and freezers. But they have become netter at equaling the pressue.

PV=nRT en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law

Change in temperature (T) means a change in volume and/or pressure

Ideal gas law - Wikipedia

I could be wrong, but I really believe heating the bowl is the correct answer.

The air inside is what is causing the vacuum heat the air, expansion, less vacuum. Cool the air, shrinks, more suction.

Heating both likely the smoothest solution.

Thanks! I had not factored that in
Why would you want to cool the plate?
You want to create expansion in one and shrinkage in the other so that you have movement that helps break the seal. Technically you could do one or the other, but it’ll create more net change if you do both.

The McDLT solution

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Jason Alexander McDonald's McDLT Ad (1985)

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No, warm the whole thing to heat the air inside
It’s about pressure. The goal is to make the air pressure inside the same as outside. Not that anyone would expect me to know stuff.

Like, a bowl is stuck to a plate?

Put the bowl in warm water, put ice on the plate. It’ll release within a few minutes

Drill a small hole in the bottom of the bowl to equalize the pressure.
Trepanning is the solution to many of life’s problems.
That would have worked if you hadn’t stopped me.
Now that is a great idea /s
I’m so glad you used the sarcasm mark or that would have gone completely over my head.
The odd thing is I really also thought it might be a great idea because of the frustration
Just smash. It will be satisfying.
I’m gonna need an update when OP does the hot bowl trick, I wanna know if it worked
I pryed it open with a knife. Eventually. And wasted the ravioli.
Reminds me of when I tried doing some cocktails with a boston shaker (two metal tins). It’s pretty easy to get those stuck - since metal bends it’s probably easier to get then unstuck than a ceramic bowl, but the cocktail is probably ruined after you have been trying to get the tins unstuck for a couple of minutes. Plus the potential spillage.

I don’t know if you did that, but for anybody struggling with those:

You’re supposed to put them together at an angle, so that the outer wall of the tins forms one straight line from top to bottom. Like this:

To open it you take them into one hand, hold them on the side where they form the straight line. Then take your other hand and gently smack against the part where the both tins connect.

Here:

Since tin tins are hard to break (though not impossible I can tell from experience) you could also use a hard surface and more force if needed.

If they’re still stuck, let some warm water run on where they connect and try again. Although the drink might get watery if you take too much time.

Yeah, I did those. What helped me was using very little pressure when putting the tins together, barely enough to create a seal. Some guides suggest pushing them together with a smack to create a seal, which is rather counterproductive when your issue is not being able to open it quickly.
Oh yeah, if you use them often enough you’ll get a feel for how much pressure you can use, I’m comfortable with using a little smack to close them, but I used to work in a cocktail bar, so I have some experience with them.
Can you slide the bowl across the plate far enough to allow air to flow into the bowl and “break the vacuum”?
Plastic bowl. Squeeze it.
Hey, if you’re using the hot bowl trick, make sure you pay attention to it; if you leave it to get hot and forget, it will be even harder to unstick it because the escaping hot air inside will make a partial vacuum when it cools down.
UPDATE PLEASE. I must know the fate of the dishes.
It has been 6 hours since OP created the ravioli black hole that will eventually consume our planet. I think of all the wasted years I spent worrying as oblivion heads my way.

OP responded that he microwaved bowl and plate, and that some plastic melted and fused them both.

@[email protected] - can we get an after picture?

edit: context: programming.dev/post/28471691/16271644

My ravioli bowl won't unstick. Took about an hour of prying, and still I couldn't unstick the plate. - programming.dev

Update: it took time. And then a quick pry with a knife. Saved the dishes. Ravioli saved too but for raccoons outside probably lol. What I learned about physics…sheesh.

I don’t think I’m your guy haha. I do not have a ravioli bowl unfortunately.
were you able to free the raviolis
Put the whole thing in a pot of water and start bringing it to a slow simmer. This will warm the air inside, expanding it and breaking the suction. I got my stuck blender jar open this way, taking it out as soon as the first tiny bubble escaped and quickly unscrewing it before it could cool.

I also think heating everything up is the smoothest solution. But to offer an alternative, I’d use dental floss to get in between the bowl and plate. If the bowl has slightly rounded edges (I believe it will), it won’t be too hard to get floss in. With the floss you’ll get inevitably some air in… Which will equalise the pressure and break the vacuum.

As an inferior alternative to floss, fishing line could work for this approach as well.

I feel like this would cause a mild explosion. Not based on any real science, i just imagine that if it’s stuck that good there’s gonna be a more-than-satisfying pop when those finally separate, lol

That said, i really like your solution ✨

Implosion and very very mild, but technically yes
Can also use knife
No one is going to mention that OP has a bowl specifically for ravioli?
I think it’s just a bowl currently full of ravioli
No issues with either one of these options tbh
I’m confused why there is a plate involved at all.
I would guess he had the plate over the bowl, while he was microwaving it, to prevent the little sauce splatters during heating.
I hope OP learned to use a paper/dish towel from now on if that’s the case lmao
Well how do you cook ravioli? In your fettuccine bowl?
…in a pot?

But which pot?

Not my oatmeal pot, or the spaghetti pot

Definitely not the macaroni pot
These jokes about different pots for each meal are funny until you live with a hoarder for awhile who must have enough pots to cook each food in its own (even though they use the same pot or pan for everything they cook). Ugh it sucked lol
Obviously you need to consider how much ravioli you’re making when choosing which ravioli pot to take down from your ravioli pot shelf.
Ew, what’s wrong with you
Pour it onto a dish rag and microwave it? I thought this was common knowledge?
Pick which one to save and which one to sacrifice. Smash the sacrifice with a hammer to free the other, break them both and realize this is just so like you and every single thing you try to do starts with a half baked plan, then goes off the rails and ruins everything until you’ve nothing to do but pick up the pieces.
I’m the kind of person who reads step 1, does it, and then goes on to read step 2. I’m happy I’m not OP.
Hot air cooled, contracted, and created partial vacuum is my guess. Make it hot again and it will unstick, I bet.