"We can't use the law to punish bad behavior because then they'll use the law to punish good behavior." They already do! They don't need an excuse! This is peak liberal brain shit.

All laws are sublimated state violence. You either control it and use it for good ends or they control it and turn it into a police state.

When Nazis are in charge, they make it illegal to not be a Nazi.

"We have to convince them to change their hearts."

No, we have to beat them into submission and make them terrified of being Nazis.

@gwynnion Yes. This. This whole "oh they just don't understand" argument is annoying me for decades now. They do understand. They do know. They just don't care. They're just flustered now because they didn't expect they were *part* of the suckers and losers their leaders promised to steamroll. The same way their kindred spirits all over the world would be.
They know. They understand. They just love to be assholes. It is pointless arguing with someone who holds hate as a religious belief.
@gwynnion I'm happy to agree to disagree when it comes to "Should we widen this highway", and "What should the library look like".
But not when it comes to whether or not women have bodily autonomy or if trans people get to exist.

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It's a bit embarrassing for a Buddhist monk to be pushed to this extreme, but I (metaphorically) agree. Moral people can't just sit around being moral. Sometimes we have to stand up and do it.

It's true that people who consider themselves moral have often used this principle as an excuse to behave indecently. But that doesn't change the fact.

Mindful action is a necessary part of morality.

@gwynnion

The only thing that gets a Nazis
attention is a bat upside the head!

@gwynnion Yep, we already tried this "convincing them to change their hearts" and look where it got us. *gestures vaguely all around*

@gwynnion Those aren't necessarily separate things.

When attacked, your job becomes to fight until the attacker is unable or unwilling to continue.

@gwynnion So they can rise again when conditions turn into their favor.
@budgegeria @gwynnion we have to remember to keep kicking the shit out of them whenever they rear their heads, and reach out children to step up when their turn comes.
@gwynnion yep. let them see the light after the swelling from the beating subsides.

@gwynnion I'm OK with changing their hearts.

Now, as for how successful the heart transplant surgery would be, it being my first time and all, I wouldn't like to say ... πŸ˜‡

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The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

@gwynnion not mutually exclusive? πŸ€”
@gwynnion frankly we should have made it illegal to be one, and long ago.
@Crow Seriously. Confederate flags and all that shit, too.
@gwynnion They can threaten me with the death penalty if they wish, I will still never be a Nazi!