GeneticJenDespite Bigelow conducting research and finding no evidence whatsoever, Lacatski turns up and immediately sees a ghostly apparition in a kitchen. How lucky! And for it to happen to a respectable intelligence official rather than a random couple trying to sell their ranch! This seems more legit
Bigelow and Lacatski use this encounter as a way to convince friend, paranormal enthusiast, and US Senator, Harry Reid to part with some cash. Hearing the tales from a legit intelligence officer and trusted friend, Harry used his influence to start a program to study Skinwalker Ranch
Senator Reid asked Lacatski, the guy who was convinced by the dino-beaver hybrid stories, to write up the proposal for the program to study the UFOs etc out there. Now... it's difficult to convince the US government to spend money on poltergeists, but all of this can tie back to UFOs if you're creative
The couple who sold the ranch claimed it was a UFO hotspot. UFOs are taken more seriously than ghosts and Bigfoot. So it became the belief of the enthusiasts than everything experienced there was the work of the UFOs or their creators
Portal in the sky? Monsters hunting people? Poltergeists that follow you home? All manifestations of the UFOs. You see, the people involved have a fascination with psychic powers and a belief that humans are actually psychic. Telepathy and UFOs go hand in hand for this group and many UFO folk
The intelligent, other-worldly presence at Skinwalker Ranch uses psychic powers to make people see things like werewolves. They can change how they appear to us, which is very convenient because it means any strange tale can be the intelligence at work. How lucky
But ultimately, it's the UFOs that are real. Everything else is caused by them. So we can call this a UFO program. Or can we? That still sounds like it won't be taken seriously. How about the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program? That's more like it
So Lacatski writes up the program like it's investigating future aerospace technologies, obscuring the fact that this is referring to the UFOs that make people see dinobeavers. It was legit enough that it was accepted and Senator Reid was able to get $22 million funding for it
The program was put out for external companies to bid on but only one company was considered and ultimately won: Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. Wait... Bigelow? Did Bigelow just get his friend to give him $22 million to study ghosts? Yes
As before, no physical evidence of any kind was uncovered but again we got a fantastic book. Lacatski himself, leading the Pentagon program, wrote a book called "Skinwalkers at the Pentagon" telling all about the $22 million hunt for Bigfoot and werewolves at the ranch and claiming it was real
Lacatski: we're spending millions on poltergeists
The Pentagon: you're fucking what?
Shit hits the fan and the program is obviously closed down
But the people passionate about the "work" keep it going in their spare time. This is an important point. It's now unofficial
Many of the big players you hear from in recent stories were intelligence officials who "worked on a Pentagon UFO program" (which sounds very legit). They genuinely did work for the Pentagon but were involved in the spare-time UFO stuff after it was closed down. Luis Elizondo etc
You can probably sense the beginnings of a clique here. We've been talking about friends, people getting each other money, people with shared beliefs. There's a passionate group of believers who think something otherworldly is here and not necessarily as simple as biological ET
You can explain UFOs, ghosts, Bigfoot, Nessie, and seemingly anything you want if there's an inter dimensional intelligence that communicates with us telepathically and can cause us to experience anything it wants us to. The passionate group seemingly believes this
Why am I telling you about all this? Well it turns out all the recent stuff comes from this Skinwalker Ranch group. There's Luis Elizondo who claimed to lead an official Pentagon UFO research program (he only did once it was a spare-time thing)
There's the famous UFO videos (of balloons) and associated stories printed as the front page story in the New York Times by afterlife and UFO writer Leslie Hope. She got the stories from Luis Elizondo. All the recent interest has exploded from those articles, directly connected to Skinwalker Ranch
Skipping a lot of silly stuff, we now have US Congress speaking to whistleblowers like David Grusch who seems much more legit on the surface. An intelligence officer who heard there might be UFO recovery programs and wanted answers but couldn't get them
So... no evidence. But at least he's not associated with... wait who is that in the room with him after the congressional hearing? Oh no. Never mind, he's pals with Elizondo, Hope etc. This keeps happening. A legit eyewitness who witnessed nothing and is hanging out with the Skinwalker Ranch people
Tbf there are individuals who seem to have nothing to do with the group of course and naturally their claims are still welcomed by the Skinwalker group. Like pilot Ryan Graves who saw a UFO that looked and acted like a radar reflector balloon
But most importantly, a new pattern is emerging and it's been successful for the group:
- Respected intelligence/military officer claims to know about UFO recoveries. Wow, genuinely fascinating!
- Has no evidence, has just heard stuff
- After initial interviews, starts talking about a bit more than just UFO recoveries...
- Speaks of interdimensional beings and controlling the ships with your consciousness and god dammit wait a minute, don't tell me
- Yep, who are the sources they heard things from? Who are they palling around with? Who are they namedropping? Skinwalker Ranch people like Elizondo etc
The latest is a guy called Jake Barber. Claims to be a helicopter pilot with very dubious stories (a friend once came across a giant UFO and concluded it must be drug dealers hahahaha what). Like almost all of the people in these stories, he's been psychic his whole life and seen UFOs
Yeah I maybe should have mentioned how many of these people are involved in remote viewing. Luis Elizondo claims to have been a remote viewer for the government. Apparently this is how we get the UFOs btw. We summon them by telepathically communicating with them the same way they can with us
That isn't something I'm getting from randos on Reddit. That's what this group thinks the US government is doing. Using psychics to bring down UFOs. And indigenous people in the US and around the world are the best at it because they're so insultingly at one with nature so they use them mostly
Oh and children, autistic people, and gays. They're all supposedly good at reaching out and controlling the spaceships, but it's mostly native Americans. I'm sure none of this is going to become more problematic
They're not going into these weirder details in the congressional hearings but the same people in those hearings are sharing these beliefs in interviews and books. Barber, the helicopter pilot, did secret recoveries and one time it was a round UFO with no obvious means of propulsion (like a balloon)
While lifting it up, he had a moment and felt very sensitive. He felt a feminine force that made him cry. He may have received a telepathic communication from the balloon or he maybe he just had a bit of a wobbly but either way that's his story as a "whistleblower"
Like so many of the people involved, they have something that I always appreciate in these types of stories. Most of us don't get super powers. But then some people supposedly have several. You go to the psychic event and someone claims to read your future AND talk to angels
What are the odds that superpowers are real and they get TWO of them? What are the odds that someone sees UFOs up close several times in their life, in different parts of the world under different circumstances, even as a child, and grows up to find themselves working on UFOs. How lucky!
What are the odds that you're a child psychic who has close-up UFO encounters then when you get a government job you end up recovering spacecraft that are brought down by the US government using psychic agents? Weird how so much paranormal stuff can happen to these people. And all involving their passions
Jake Barber, a psychic helicopter pilot recovered the balloon (or round, featureless UFO), connected with it, and is telling his story. Then he went to a public event with other Skinwalker Ranch folk and saw German children using telekinesis (no videos or studies on them, very odd, I'd love to see)
Barber is training his kids to become psychics to communicate with the aliens. Why? Because the group seemingly has a new approach that will blow this thing wide open. If the US government won't come forward and admit they use remote viewing to down alien spacecraft, then they'll do it themselves
Barber and the skinwalker folk have formed a group that will bring down and recover alien spacecraft, showing that if they can do it then the government definitely can and that the interdimensional beings really are here
The group also claims there are several races btw so not sure which one they'll catch. There are reptilian ones, the typical "greys" and even the "Nordics" which are... just white folk. All of these beings resemble something that shares our primate ancestry of course. Two legs. Two arms. Bipedal. Early Star Trek aliens more or less
The sad thing is... some of these people seem potentially easy to manipulate. Several have had severe mental health issues and PTSD. They also include people who have believed strongly in alien encounters their whole life. All this comes out later after their initial interviews
And when you dig, the incredible sources they have appear to be the skinwalker ranch people. Just when someone seems like they're going in a new direction they name drop Elizondo. And then new people name drop the previous people who were name dropping Elizondo
You can watch an awful Joe Rogan interview with Jason Sands. He had close up encounters with UFOs when he was a kid and then as an adult was lucky enough to meet an alien face to face. The alien told him about some materials (that he never decided to look into) and showed him a star map
Someone asked him to draw the star map and it turned out the creature was from a specific star in a constellation. I mean it was a star that isn't actually in the constellation he names but let's not dwell on the details. Who confirmed this for him? Whistleblower David Grusch
We'll ignore the contradiction that they're inter-dimensional beings but also from a specific star system. Or I guess they're from there but use their inter-dimensional abilities to get here? I guess we'll find out soon enough after Barber's kids bring one down for us
It all comes back to Skinwalker Ranch. The problem with having people with decent security clearance who genuinely believe this stuff is they can convince others to get on their side so easily but when the sources become the sources of the sources it's like a self fulfilling prophecy or cult
It actually makes people like Bob Lazar seem more legit as he doesn't appear to be involved with them and he claims it's all just regular biological aliens from another planet. Almost feels boring compared to the remote viewing and dinobeavers. But he's also a fake physicist and demonstrable liar
In some ways, things are the same as they always have been. What's new is that some of the believers coming forward have roles that make them seem more credible to laypeople. Here's a perfect example: Garry Nolan. An expert immunology research scientist (not a medical doctor)
What's common in the UFO world is for the psychic to be working on propulsion research, or the electrical engineer to be working on alien telepathy. Everyone's an expert when it's bullshit. It's like when the creationist archaeological scientist who proves the world is 6000 years old is actually a dentist. Garry Nolan works on everything. Analyse ship parts? Alien DNA? Telekinesis? He does it all. Alien expert. And if he is to be believed, he does this stuff for US government bodies
It's one thing for the Blink-182 singer to have pieces of a wrecked UFO (yes he's involved with this lot btw). But when you tell UFO fans that a highly successful research scientist and businessman has UFO wreckage in his possession, it suddenly sounds a lot more legit. People don't necessarily know to ask why the immunologist is doing that work for government bodies
Watch any interview and more than 99% of the comments are supportive, believing everything he says, seeing him as an expert in all the fields he's working in. I am not exaggerating. I would say 100% but you might spot the odd comment from me (they often get deleted by some channels though). Yes he's saying the same remote viewing stuff (including that autistic people are better at it than "normals" btw)
Actually while I'm on it, Jake Barber also said that gay people are better at it than "normal people". Considering this group all work together and reinforce each other, it's hard to tell if calling straight, neurotypical people "normals" is trait of these individuals or part of the group philosophy. They're definitely agreeing with each other in advance about how to talk about certain things so it makes me wonder about this
You can see this in interviews where they use the same terms for things like NHI meaning non-human intelligence. Jason Sands uses "NHI" in his interview with Joe Rogan. Joe said he prefers "aliens" and Jason said he does too. You can tell he's been told to use this term to be taken more seriously
Anyway, Garry Nolan is a respected scientist but laypeople think that makes him an expert in everything. Even relating to immunology people think he can do anything. That Jake Barber guy (helicopter pilot) thinks he was radiated so much that he's worried about cancer. Did he go to a doctor? No...
He's being seen by Nolan, who isn't a medical doctor; just the resident expert in all things alien. And it's respectable experts like Nolan and Grusch that are making US politicians take this stuff seriously, potentially wasting more taxpayer money and it STILL comes back to Skinwalker Ranch lol
Anyway, I'm tired of writing. That's where we're at now. In the near future some children will use remote viewing to bring down a UFO and the group (who is currently successfully convincing US congress members that this is legit) can go public and show us that inter-dimensional aliens are real and visiting. Or maybe that won't happen. Watch this space I guess
Oblomov@GeneticJen this thread was frustrating to read in many ways, but also thank you so very much for writing it.
[ Jer moved to his own instance ]@GeneticJen Do you have recommendations on which books are delightfully batshit rather than just frustratingly batshit?
Paul Fenwick@GeneticJen : Goodness me, this entire thread is wonderful, and makes a lot of previous things fit into place. Thank you.