Fedo ¶TIL that USA banned abestos only in 2024
Until someone that owns an asbestos mine buys one of those trump gold cards…
Captain AggravatedReminds me of Kingdom of Loathing. They tried to make a joke out of getting materials from mines in the game that aren’t mined, like linoleum (which is made from linseed oil). You go to a mine and get “linoleum ore” in the game. Or asbestos ore. Because they didn’t know that asbestos is actually a mineral that is mined.
PronellVery good and very silly game.
Fight a rushing bum in the sleazy back alley, and they drop bum cheeks when defeated. This is a hat that offers a small amount of armor and slight stench resistance. Get two of them and meatpaste them together and it forms an ass hat, which offers a little more armor and slight sleaze damage in addition to stench resistance.
I love that fucking game.
I once helped someone get a Hodgman’s Imaginary Hamster and in return he gifted me a few IRL pot plants (Super Lemon Haze, a damn good strain) that I used to pull myself and my Dad out of a pit.
Game inadvertently saved our lives, and I still haven’t gotten to thank John Hodgman.
(Yes, the game is that insane and silly. Getting that damn hamster requires at least 10 people working together.)
Lol you fucking what? John Hodgman did what? I’m so confused lol
John Hodgman wrote the book My Areas of Expertise, which has a list of hobo names for some bizarre reason.
Kingdom of Loathing, in making a multi-player clan hobo dungeon, used that list of names as a random hobo name generator, and then named the boss of the whole place Hodgman, the Hoboverlord.
I went to a standup show where Hodgman was supposed to do a set and he had cancelled, replaced with Brian Posehn. Brian was also awesome but I really wanted to tell John Hodgman how he inadvertently saved my life.
Now the details of how you get that specific item are even weirder but I’m done phone typing.
Oh nice. Cool story.
I had that Hodgman book, and I remember all the stuff about hobos lol… I was pretty young at the time, and couldn’t tell if the stuff he wrote about “the hobo code” and “hobo nickels” were real. But I’m pretty sure it was all true lol
The hobo code and hobo nickels made it into the game too. It was fairly comprehensive.
Honestly… it kind of makes me sad that there’s no real modern equivalent to hobos. There is something that makes them distinct from an unhoused person. Maybe it’s because sometimes people chose the lifestyle voluntarily?
There’s just something romantic about it all… It would be so liberating to just sell your shit, drop out of society, and just train-hop for a while.
It was done under Biden’s term.
Trump unbanning it out of petty childishness in 3…2…1…
To prove it’s safe, he will have… Don’t Jr do a line in a live conference.
WahotsPlease make it a trend to “own the libs”
My libtard buddies and I hate when people rail lines of asbestos!
I might be mistaken but wasn’t the asbestos ban lifted by Trump in his first term and Biden just reinstalled the ban?
Not pettyness, his daddy puttin is the biggest exporter.
gi1242omg. turns out there something called an asbestos bankruptcy trust that companies use to get out of paying people injured by asbestos exposure
And there are states that passed laws specifically to make it harder for people to sue at all (red states, obviously)
Tort reform once again
“The largest 26 of these trusts paid about 2.4 million claims totaling about $10.9 billion up to 2008.”
Sounds like they were made to pay people … the companies are bankrupt. The trusts ensure funds are available to pay people despite the companies being insolvent.
the trusts pay pennies to the dollar…
Instead of literally nothing.
The perpetrators pay literally nothing.
madame_gaymesThere are probably still a ton of oil heated homes with steam pipes wrapped in asbestos in the US. Hell, even my high school in the early 2000s was still using asbestos insulation everywhere, and I recall seeing those mesothelioma class-action commercials way before that in the 90s.
I bought a house in New England that still had it in 2016 and it was upwards of $7000 to replace at a discount (which also included the boiler, so probably closer $2000 for the pipes+labor) in 2018. For those looking to buy a home that might be oil heated, keep this in mind! One of the previous owners attempted to cover it all with black duct tape, but it wasn’t made to last under the heat those pipes can put out (especially when your boiler tstat breaks and ambient temps rise to 90F…)
Asbestos abatement ain’t cheap because there are specific ways it needs to be handled and disposed of.
If you don’t live in a shithole state, at least.
I worked asbestos removal twenty years ago. It might have just been on the books recently, that doesn’t mean it hasn’t been a major concern, and actively removed for almost half a century.
Trump has touted to bring it back many times. Take a guess who the biggest exporter is…
Russia :/
Literally a joke from the Simpsons. Bart runs for class president and proclaims “We want more asbestos!”
Is that for buildings or all applications? There were still some niche uses outside of buildings.
We still use leaded gas for aviation, as does (I believe) the EU (I’m guessing RoW, too).
(Supposed to be banned this year in the EU but AFAICT pushed back until 2032.)
ByteJunkAvgas (100LL) isn’t banned yet. What is banned, starting may 2025, is importing or mixing the lead additive (TEL) itself, so avgas cannot be produced in Europe.
This means that avgas will have to be imported from elsewhere, which should raise it’s price and provide an incentive to move away from using it.
This is a very soft handed approach, I’ll just say I’m very glad I don’t live close to an airfield…
PsychadelligoatNot for mass aviation, that’s Kerosene (no, really, jet fuel is kerosene done to slightly fancier standards than your lantern fuel), which is unleaded fuel
Other guy explained avgas, which is leaded but not nearly as used as jet fuel
It’s been banned in new construction for a long time I believe. What they recently banned was the niche use of it in industrial applications I believe. Which pretty much completely banned it
Allegedly, if there’s asbestos in your workplace, it’s better to leave it and not remove it. IE, in wall or ceiling paint
Asbestos in it’s solid form is actually pretty harmless, and it has a huge amount of benefits. The downside is the particulates say in the air for days or weeks, and they cause horrific cancers.
Its really hard and expensive to get rid of asbestos safely, but it’s pretty inert after it’s actually installed somewhere.
DasusThere’s a scene in Life on Mars, premise being a person from the late 00’s wakes up in the 80’s.
They’re police and one episode they chase some person in an attic space with asbestos and the 80’s cops just bust through asbestos insulation and it’s all over the air and them. And the main character who points out it’s asbestos is fine with like covering her mouth with a piece of cloth.
I was like “noooo gtfo of there, a little napkin hanging on your face isn’t gonna protect you”
ObiI have a good memory from that show, maybe I should watch it again, it has the master.
Ok yeah well if you know if I was actually referring to what is basically the sequel. “Sam” (John Simm) is from early 00’s and goes to the 70’s.
Then there’s s sequel “Ashes to Ashes”, main character different, side characters mostly different, and it’s a woman from the late 00’s and the show is 80’s themed.
Both great.
I think they would’ve continued with John Simm perhaps but that’s just around the time he got the role as the Master.
I’ve definitely missed the sequel, so even more reasons to watch both again!
addieIt’s one of those materials that has an almost complete list of superb properties, with one overwhelming downside. It’s cheap, abundantly available, completely fireproof and can be woven into fireproof cloth, adds enormous structural strength to concrete in small quantities, very resistant to a wide range of chemical attacks. It’s just that the dust causes horrific cancers. See also CFCs, leaded petrol, etc, which have the same ‘very cheap, superb in their intended use, but the negative outweighs all positives’.
One of the ‘niche industrial applications’ was the production of pump gaskets in high-temperature scenarios, especially when pumping corrosive liquids. We’ve a range of superalloys that are ‘suitable’ for these applications - something like inconel is an absolute bastard to form into shapes, but once you’ve done so it lasts a long time. But you still need something with similar properties when screwing the bits together. For a long time, there was no suitable synthetic replacement for asbestos in that kind of usage.
If you know that the asbestos is there, have suitable PPE and procedures, then IMHO it’s far from the worst industrial material to work with. It’s pretty inert, doesn’t catch fire or explode, and isn’t one of the many exciting chemicals where a single droplet on your skin would be sufficient to kill you. What is inappropriate is using it as a general-purpose building material, which is how it was used for so long, and where it was able to cause so much suffering for so many people.
Twinklebreeze The biggest problem with it is that the particles are so small that they can stay afloat for weeks without any airflow. They are just that light.
We were using it in aftermarket brake pads too…
jagged_circleHow do we prevent aftermarket brake pads from catching fire now, then?
EVs. Regenerative braking is no contact, not friction
Wonderful tech! Extremely dangerous and illegal to have without also having brake pads…
This reduces wear on brake pads. It doesn’t eliminate the need for them.
Of course. As far as I know, every EV also has a normal brake deal that operates normally using normal brake technologies.
The goal is to maximize regenerative braking since it is frictionless and recovers energy, while minimizing friction braking because it wastes energy, requires maintenance and pollutes.
EV drivers should expect double the life of their brakes, or more.
Asbestos in brake pads was banned as a factory item for car manufacturers. No cars are allowed to come new with asbestos in the pads, it’s a solved problem. It’s allowed for replacement pads only.
Ok so how do they not catch fire without asbestos
Wouldn’t that generate a lot of floating particles of asbestos for anyone in the surrounding area?
Cars are literally death. Yes, asbestos is part of it.
Unfortunately yes… Brakes and tires are the most polluting parts of a car
You should see the auto shop guys cleaning out brake drums with an air hose and just spraying it all over the place without PPE.
Don’t worry, not for long.
Ha! My first thought too. Gotta Make America Cancer Again.
M0oP0oHow else will you scratch that itch in your lungs?
The healthy power of asbestos crystals in your toothpaste will remove any stubborn bacteria that HCL or Sulfuric acids can’t remove! HSO4! Really! One brushing and you’ll have a permanent smile in no time! …some people may not have a permanent smile depending in rigor mortis.
On 25 June 2018, a Russian mining company named Uralasbest, which is one of the world’s largest producers of asbestos, posted a message of support for President Trump on their official Facebook and VK (a Russian version of Facebook) pages. The post included photographs of packed asbestos material adorned with the face of Trump and the text "Approved by Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States.
www.snopes.com/…/russian-asbestos-trump_face/
At this point the only people who seem to think he isn’t a Russian asset are the ones in Congress. Personally I would love Congress to finally just start calling him out on all his constant bull shit. Which they have started, but it needs to be ramped up considerably. There is so much material, if the Republicans were in the Democrats shoes they would never stop screaming about all this crap, yet for the first they wouldn’t need to lie.
The state serves capital (especially landlords), not people.
Rymrgand's Daughter They’re going to unban it and RFK is going to say lick it to cure measles