Holy f*ck!

"The tariffs are not broken down by country, they're broken down by top level internet domain."

#tariffs #US #USA

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Yeah, that's a real crack team he's assembled, there.

@McDonald_69 Isle of Man (.im) isn't on the list I found separately to the UK. Nor are Jersey (.je) and Guernsey (.gg).

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If the effects wouldn’t be so devastating, this’d be hilarious as fuck. It’s like a deleted scene from idiocracy.

@McDonald_69 Yes, this is the reason why general purpose AI is such a thing in the US. Actually, AI has been in use for quite some time ... mainly in science, where huge amounts of data require structuring (just think about the complexity of meteorological, astronomical, or genetic data).

Now, it appears that some uneducated individuals have discovered AI to "augment" their own, rather deplorable, intellectual capacities ... like a neanderthal finding a hand grenade - what can go wrong? 👊🇺🇸🔥

@McDonald_69 Sort of but not really. Those two-letter top-level domains are based on ISO 3166 country codes. That standard is a decent compromise defining what is and isn’t a country. Basing your list on it is a pretty good start. The more interesting thing is what they deleted from the list rather than what they left on.

But also, the list is just for show. The actual order declares a 10% tariff for everyone and then has an annex with higher tariffs for some countries plus a few exceptions.

@partim @McDonald_69 it's a terrible list to start with, if you are a government, that has access to their own Department of State.
@weddige @partim @McDonald_69 imho the standards for senior officials governing the most powerful nation to ever exist should be higher than those for undergrads on their first poli sci group project
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This gets to the underlying problem, which is that Trump doesn't trust the existing government bureaucracy. The bureaucrats have more loyalty to the law than to the President, which is why Trump is trying to eliminate them and (presumably) replace them with loyalists. Until then he depends on outsiders like DOGE, who he trusts more.
@partim @McDonald_69 it's not really a decent start and makes little sense. Why do the overseas parts of European countries have separate codes (eg for France Réunion or French Guiana) but not Alaska and Hawaii for the US?

@Ash_Crow This list is the most internationally recognised compromise of the set of all countries. So, even if you disagree and apply a different definition of country, it is still a good place to start and then add and remove according to your own definition.

Saying “it makes little sense” because there are – and always will be – a couple of complicated corner cases feels disingenuous.

@partim It's a good start for me, if I wanted to get a list of all countries. For the administration of the USA it is not close to where they should start, let alone to where they should end. I mean, seriously: You're not able to tell what's a sovereign country and what not? Sort that out first before you think about tariffs. (And we know how they calculated the alleged tariffs of other countries. All of this is cringeworthy.) @McDonald_69

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Like printing the score of Beethoven's 5th symphony with the notes in ascending order.

How cool is that :)

@McDonald_69 This has got the lotion-smeared fingerprints of DOGE incels all over it.
@McDonald_69 by ISO-3166 codes. Which IMO are also used by the WTO.

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Regardless of this being true or not, it's a totally plausible hypothesis, i.e. the part following "because". 😂

@McDonald_69 personally, if it was up to me, I would’ve broken it up by ASN, but to each their own.
@McDonald_69 Dumb and lazy. Half-arsing everything like it's a bullshit report someone asked them to put together late in Friday afternoon.
@McDonald_69 Ehm, the TLDs originate from an ISO standards list, so technically they could have used that. (Even though even I doubt that they did)
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FWIW, I haven’t tried to cross tab the trump tariff list or anything, but a lot of non-sovereign territories like Gibraltar and Réunion are listed as destinations in US trade statistics.
@McDonald_69 It'll be by ISO territory code, which is indeed where top level domains come from, but that doesn't mean this was arrived at via TLDs either.
@McDonald_69 this isn't the case; it's still very dumb and bad but the author of the post in the screenshot has retracted it: https://mastodon.social/@jplebreton/114281042156184762
@McDonald_69 Now we know for sure they used LLM prompts to generate that table.
@McDonald_69 what's the tarif of Frisia (.frl)?