edvardSailfish os?
alexcleacAFAIK, Sailfish OS has quite strong ties with russia. I love the approach and the choice of technology, and enjoyed it a lot (much more than the iOS/Android approach) — the platform is indeed magnificent and has quite a few great things about it. Although, I see relying on Sailfish OS to be quite a risky choice, given their close ties with russia and unknown status of their support of russian version of the OS.
cabbageSailfish OS is developed by Jolla, who are a Finish company with offices in Finland (Tampere and Helsinki) and China (Hong Kong).
The Russians have forked Sailfish into Aurora OS, but that's a separate system. It started out as a cooperation, but Jolla cut all ties with Russia in 2021.
It seems they had Russian investors and took active means to get rid of them:
In 2024, to escape Russia's investors due to the Ukrainian war, the Jolla initial company filed for bankruptcy, continuing its activity under the JollyBoys name.
I would obviously not use Aurora OS, but do you have any information that would indicate that Jolla or Sailfish OS are compromised?
I do not as of now, although I am still very suspicious about the company, partly because of weird “no politics” response when team was asked to claim their stance on full-blown invasion. As a strong reason for it is that Jolla business with russia was being done after Crimea peninsula annexation, which brings even more suspicion to me.
Bottom line: I do not see this platform as being actively involved with warmongering state, but as one that directly supported an ability for it, and a potential risk.
More or less the entirety of western society failed in not sanctioning Russia profoundly in 2014, and we are now paying the cost. No doubt. But I wouldn't exaggerate Jolla's role - going through a bankruptcy to shake investors off seems to me to be dedication, even if it might be a bit late.
Yeah, I see your point, and it kind of makes sense to see bankruptcy as an attempt to start clean. I did not know about that, thanks for letting me know.
Still, my take is that Jolla’s products should be considered carefully, and history should be taken into account.
I think phone operating systems are incredibly sensitive software, and they should always be considered carefully.
Ironic as fuck then that I'm currently using stock Android. Oh well.
Yeah… I know the feeling :)