“I’m going to need you to hang on to your stock until the board finishes selling theirs. If you could do that, that would be great”

@gneilyo @cstross A thing I don't understand: If they sell all their shares… Or, anyway, a substantial amount of them… Doesn't that mean their seat on the board is at risk? Like… The ownership of the company is diluted and some new party or parties have enough stake to put themselves on the board, right?

Like, that's fine by me, Tesla can get fucked, but I just feel like I don't know how these things work and I feel like it's good to know how the horrible system works. You know?

@benhamill @gneilyo @cstross 100M worth of shares is only like 100-400k shares. The executives haven't even come close to diluting themselves that much.

@benhamill besides what the others are saying, there are different type of shares. Some give you more say in the company than others.

@gneilyo @cstross

@benhamill it might have something to do with this: https://mastodon.nl/@jasper/114194149753718071
(uh really i haven't read longer news articles about it, and don't feel like it)
@gneilyo @cstross
Jasper 🍉 (@[email protected])

Yeah, stealing shit from capitalists. How good Trump thinks of you is the new capital. Not very fun-gible. "Delaware’s Senate has approved a bill that would shield corporations from *shareholder* accountability in a state where two-thirds of all Fortune 500 companies are registered." In case you don't think corporate Democrats are shit: "The legislation is backed by Democratic Governor Matt Meyer and was written by the law firm that represents Tesla and Elon Musk." https://www.democracynow.org/2025/3/19/headlines/delaware_lawmakers_advance_billionaires_bill_shielding_corporate_executives_from_accountability

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@benhamill @gneilyo @cstross No. Directorships are completely independent from shareholdings.
@benhamill @gneilyo @cstross
As far as I know, the members of the board are chosen by the shareholders, but don't have to be (big) shareholders themselves.
@gneilyo bringing back old Enron memories

@gneilyo to be fair, $100 mil is pennies to them

but iirc, all of the tesla board members have always been selling their stock as they receive it, because they have no confidence that the company will continue to hold its valuation lol

@gneilyo i had a friend lose his entire retirement and his job years ago in Enron. They tried this shit, too.

I foresee jail time and class-action lawsuits.

@the_turtle @gneilyo
Not if Elon guts the SEC first.
@mcpinson @the_turtle @gneilyo Then we will see murders
@mcpinson @the_turtle @gneilyo That's the thing rich people forget, the SEC and the courts aren't rough justice, they're the *alternative* to rough justice

@mcpinson @the_turtle @gneilyo

> Then we will see murders

Oh wait we already have

@kevinriggle @mcpinson @the_turtle @gneilyo If law ceases to exist, so does the concept of murder.
@gneilyo
This news makes my weekend G R E A T !

@gneilyo Hey I remember this episode of The Sopranos, it where Chris Moltisanti runs that stockbroker boiler room.

pump & dump
pump & dump
pump & dump

@gneilyo
I think that he is trying to say: 'Now that the clever rats left the sinking ship I expect that you minions jump down to the hold and close the leaks with your bodies. Help is on the way! Be a little patient! I am currently figuring out how to subvert China with AI drones. BRB ' 🤡
@gneilyo A company I worked for went IPO. Here's how to tell when your CEO is a dirtbag:
"[our company] is a great value proposition. You should buy lots of stock, and get family and friends to buy lots of stock." Then go check Yoohoo! Finance and see: CEO owns 0 shares of stock. Yeah. Thanks for that advice....
@gneilyo Office Space Reference, FTW!
@gneilyo ok, but wouldn't it be halarious if the workers owned 51% of tasla, fired Musk and brought back the company.