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@ShadowJonathan i always thought it was weird that questioning something was seen as a negative, like bro im just curious
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C.S.StrowbridgeIt's because the person in charges doesn't know why that rule is in place and they are embarrassed and are lashing out.
Nikola Orsinov [Joseph Grimaldi]@ShadowJonathan I'm fuuucking tweaking xD
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Succubard's Library@ShadowJonathan aaaaah, yeah, that'd do it...
come to think of it, I remember someone I didn't get along with very well in a gaming guild eventually get that one fact and it really helped smooth things over? and they knew that if they could just give me the (often simple) explanation, I would, in their words, "bend over backwords to get a thing done if necessary" 
πWiiγε§γγ π π³οΈββ§οΈ@ShadowJonathan oh no, my autism bingo card is already full 
Sasha@ShadowJonathan all of the doctors I've been to over the years say I'm not autistic, everyone i know who is autistic says I am autistic, everything i see that's like "hey this is an autism thing btw" applies to me. i don't know what the fuck is true anymore
@etherealsasha you might be very good at masking
Auntie Mame@etherealsasha @ShadowJonathan https://novopsych.com.au/assessments/diagnosis/autism-spectrum-quotient/
Autism Spectrum Quotient (AQ)
The Autism Spectrum Quotient (AQ) is a 50 item self-report measure that assesses autistic traits in adults and people as young as 16 years. Administer Now Overview Scoring & Interpretation Psychometric Properties Professional Access Overview The Autism Spectrum Quotient (AQ) is a 50 item self-report measure that assesses autistic traits in adults and people as...
Jay@etherealsasha @ShadowJonathan I think a lot of doctors were trained to recognize a certain type of autism: namely, men who canβt look people in the eye, with neutral to hostile expressions and voices, low verbal and social skills, specific, overt, and lifelong obsessions with cataloging and collecting items and facts about a particular set of subjects (read: trains = autism, religious practices = learned, makeup = inappropriate) and a propensity for violent tantrums.
@etherealsasha @ShadowJonathan These men are also, of course, white, cis, and presumably heterosexual.
And because of that, if you exist outside of that narrow band and youβre good at masking (especially if youβve been abused for not and ESPECIALLY if you then get abused for complaining about that abuse!) then gee, are you SURE youβre autistic?
Heathen π@etherealsasha @ShadowJonathan
Doctors see you for the appointment time, you live with yourself. Unless you need something specific from a medical diagnosis of autism, trust your own experiences.
Doctors see you for the appointment time, you live with yourself. Unless you need something specific from a medical diagnosis of autism, trust your own experiences.
Toni / Link@ShadowJonathan This settles it for me then...
Linux Is Best@ShadowJonathan By her logic, smart people who don't just accept "because" as an answer to everything, growing up, are autistic.
I questioned and challenged everything in our world, because sometimes I feel the world is worth reevaluating. And sometimes changes are worth reevaluating too. I still reassess and revaluate things, even today.
@Linux @ShadowJonathan βis a big tick mark in the βmore likely to be autisticβ columnβ =/= If X, then Y.
Miles@ShadowJonathan Being told "you know what you did wrong" when you really don't....
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@ShadowJonathan haha hey wow they really can summarise me in a post
FoolishOwl@ShadowJonathan I was disagreeing with someone in a debate recently, and I was honestly startled when they acknowledged my points and changed their position. Nominally that's the point of political debates, and I was used to seeing people shift their positions in debates, but it is very rare to see someone directly say they've changed their position because of a convincing argument.
I'd like to think I change my views through being convinced by a good argument, but I'm not sure how often I do.
Catboy Slim@ShadowJonathan i didn't want to microwave food off-center until i learned about the standing waves in the microwave
@ShadowJonathan I was 48 when I finally learned this. The key phrase here for me is βlock in.β Itβs like an intense feeling, a massive lightbulb going on. Then Iβm locked in to the logic and my brainβs wheels start churning, organizing, mapping, planning. Understanding the logic unlocks a whole bunch of new directions.
Willow "Wolveric" Catkin@ShadowJonathan Ironically, the frequently overly analytical mindset of autistic peeps probably means if people actually informed them about traits associated with autism that they exhibit, they will probably work out how those apply to them in a lot of cases- 
@ShadowJonathan In my case, for years I went through educational phycologists, trying to assess if I had some sort of cognitive condition, and their conclusion was always, "If there's something you do have, it's not prevalent enough to label you with something..." so I never got help... and now I've left school, and burnt out without any techniques for coping with the fact I probably should have an ADHD/autism diagnosis- 
Furbland's Very Cool Mastodonβ’@ShadowJonathan as an autism, I can confirm this
starfrost@ShadowJonathan It shouldn't be an autistic trait because it's objectively true, most rules don't exist for rational reasons. Unfortunately, neurotypicals seem to lack the ability to see around them
sheislaurence@ShadowJonathan I score 200% on this, but reasonably confident I am not on the spectrum, because I tend to only question societal or organisational rules, rather than, whether I should brush my teeth every day.
That being said, that trait makes sense when you apply it to say #GretaThunberg, which makes you want to ensure we nurture autistic people, not least to save the rebellion and give it a fighting chanceβπ½ !
That being said, that trait makes sense when you apply it to say #GretaThunberg, which makes you want to ensure we nurture autistic people, not least to save the rebellion and give it a fighting chanceβπ½ !
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@ShadowJonathan I'm in this picture!
Mystery Babylon 
@ShadowJonathan The one billion dollar clue, here.
This was me, all my life long. I swear to god I started teaching myself research techniques in my teens just so that I wouldn't have to navigate the utterly bizarre tantrums people throw at hearing the word "Why?"
Speaking of which...why do they act like that, anyway?
I could understand if I were deeply questioning some existential social structure or something. But the worst freakouts usually came from questions like, "Hey, what should I do if the thing you asked for is impossible?"
I'd be asking from a sincere desire to assist, and be met with frothing profanity. Cops, teachers, parents, everyone.
the gripe ibis@erosdiscordia my personal theory, based on nothing scientific, makes me wonder if they get upset because they never thought to ask why. and so they don't have an answer to hand.
not a good one, anyway.
not one that would satisfy you. and, now it's been brought to their attention, not one that would satisfy them, either. and they wonder why? why did they never think to ask? should they have? are they missing something?
all this happens at the speed of thought, probably not even conscious thought. and each question raises more questions, and implications, and all of this would require self-examination, which is unpleasant at the best of times. rather than even acknowledge any of this, much easier to direct all that energy outward.
it's heaps easier to deal with symptoms than address underlying causes.
that's what i like to imagine, anyway.
it brings me more comfort than the alternative, which is that some people are just cunts
TBYGIn a rational world, that ought to be everybody. I've done it all my life, but I don't think I'm on the spectrum. Maybe I am. Who knows? I've never been evaluated.
@TBYG maybe you are, yeah
Well, if wanting reasons is an indication, then I would bet on it. Although I don't understand why everybody doesn't want reasons, and think we would be better off right now if everybody did.
Benjamin@ShadowJonathan Holy shit itβs Vivian. Thatβs a blast from the past.
Speaktrap@ShadowJonathan fck
no i'm not!!!!!!!
no i'm not!!!!!!!
Eragon@ShadowJonathan I reject that fact.
@eragon I can speak from personal experience that it's very true, and it's been my most responded and "holy shit yes" post in months, so take that as you will
@ShadowJonathan (was joking sorry)
But if it's true it means that I might be autistic (plus all the other reasons why I might be, also I might have ADHD... I really need to contact a doctor to get diagnosed)
But if it's true it means that I might be autistic (plus all the other reasons why I might be, also I might have ADHD... I really need to contact a doctor to get diagnosed)
@eragon knowing for sure will probably ironically help your autistic brain to realise it, and also seek experiences/help that aligns with it, which could help you identify coping behaviours, or behaviours in general, much better
Colin@ShadowJonathan @hexaitos π³π³π³
Katie@ShadowJonathan rules like: you must wear the uncomfortable pants and shirt and shoes to work = why? WHY? Why?!? Just explain to me why!?!?!
And rules like: donβt cross the railway line when the barriers are down = me getting angry and shouting at people who who do this BECAUSE THE REASONS ARE SO GOD DAMN OBVIOUS IT MAKES ME AONDER WHO HAS THE REAL COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT WHEN I SEE SOMEONE DO THAT!
Like, that sort of thing?
@Kestenan more of the first and then the second one is when you get it but other people do not, yes
Nimono | Solenze System@ShadowJonathan ME. ME ME ME ME ME ME HOLY SHIT. It took me SO LONG to understand why I needed to show my work on math homework. In my mind, I already knew the answer, so what did it matter if they didn't see how I got it? Even when told why, I didn't get it.
Had to realize it on my own later on.
Sabella@ShadowJonathan like how am I supposed to stop fucking up in ways that upset y'all if I don't understand why a rule exists.
@gothodile real, this
Strangething@ShadowJonathan
This is me. Since kindergarten.
This is me. Since kindergarten.
@strangething then you probably have a flavour of autism
Did you get a diagnosis?
@ShadowJonathan
Attention deficit disorder.
Attention deficit disorder.
korin π kodi@ShadowJonathan i hate how people are like this. we're in everyday life, not the military or a do or die situation for fuck's sake
Lucy (private alt) βΆ@ShadowJonathan what fr? daaamn i should talk to a therapist