cm0002Just a quick thanks to all the Instance admins out there as we await yet another Reddit wave đȘ
Blaze (he/him) Remember when I told you to keep it easy on the memes against .ml, hexbear and grad a few days ago? đ
It really has been weeks though js, and it was more thrown in, the thanks is genuine đ LMAO
Would have probably been better with purely thanks and no diss attempt in the middle đ
EmpricornBut thatâs not the meme?
Could have put Spez or whoever else everyone here despise
So⊠Youâre okay with the format and the insults, as long as itâs not against tankies?
Are lemmy.ml allies of Lemmy or not?
I respect the Lemmy devs as devs, I donât like them as instance admins, but I donât try to throw crap at time everytime I can.
Doesnât prevent me from growing [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected]
We can disagree without throwing each other under the bus
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Sunshine (she/her)Thatâs a good point to make as much as I disagree with their political beliefs they do not deserve to have extra stress in their lives especially when theyâre not being properly compensated for all the work they do as only 0.6/3 devs on the team are actually funded from donations, further worsened by the fact they need to split the funding amongst themselves.
PugJesusI respect the Lemmy devs as devs, I donât like them as instance admins, but I donât try to throw crap at time everytime I can.
âPlease donât throw crap at people denying genocides and atrocitiesâ
We can disagree without throwing each other under the bus
âAgree to disagreeâ is a civility politics take that has no place when dealing with genocide denial.
Would have been better uf you stopped complaining.
Aggressive comment, in line with your modlog lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=870550
8 months ago and a year ago arenât exactly recent examples
Plus one is complaining about the title being a word salad and the other one is a reply to a deleted comment. I may have been out of line, but Iâm not going to own up to that without knowing the context.
Fuck Tankies, all my homies Hate Tankies
I hate Illinois tankies.
áŽáŽáŽáŽÊáŽÊ ćžâAwaitâ? Weâre deep into it.
Memes or it didnât happen lmao
Have we still got any bourbons left?
Thereâs always bourbons left.
Thank you admins, we appreciate you. Mostly.
Whatâd they do this time?
Some NK Rule 1 censoring today - Lemmy.World
Donât forget .ml tankies (including the main admin and dev (unfortunately)!)simp for one of the craziest, brutalist dictatorships in the world! LMAO Welcome to the club @[email protected] [https://feddit.it/u/vodkasolution]
Thatâs it? Asking for trade embargos to be lifted? Are you serious?
Lol no, tl;dr VodkaSolutions had commented âIf, he [Trump] most likely goes down as the dumbest president of all the countries ever, even over the north Korean dictatorsâ and that was removed by the .ml Tankie mods because he dared imply that NK was run by a dictator.
But straight NK propaganda is allowed to proliferate.
Clear evidence of enforcing pro-Russia/China/NK authoritarian mindset via mod/admin action aka Tankie
And thatâs just the latest, which happened just yesterday, thereâs much more at [email protected]
MeanwhileOnGrad - sh.itjust.works
[https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/d47cb2e5-a9c3-444e-83fa-8628ace85cd1.jpeg] âOh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, heâs on the floor!â [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBeU7o6DODI] Welcome to MoG! â Meanwhile On Grad â Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome! â What is a Tankie [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie]? â Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies. [https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ziq-tankies-and-the-left-unity-scam] - (caution of biased source) â Basic Rules: Sh.itjust.works [https://sh.itjust.works/] Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. â Basically, donât be a dick. Hate-Speech â You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech. Apologia â (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether it be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology. Revisionism â No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users, as it handwaves their extremism. Off-topic Discussion â Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post, rather than engaging in arguments that lack mutual agreement. Brigading/Trolling â If youâre here because this community was linked in another thread, please refrain from maliciously voting, commenting, or manipulating the post in any way. This includes alt accounts. All votes are public, and if you are found to be brigading, you will be banned. Good-faith and honest communication is an exception. Tankies can explain their views, but may be criticised or challenged for them. Any minor infraction of the rules may result in a warning and possibly a temporary ban. Youâll be warned if youâre violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically last only 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction doubles the duration. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time. â
Meh, whatâs the big deal? Isnât it good thereâs an anti-US presence here? I like the intellectual diversity they bring, even if theyâre often insufferable jerks about it.
Itâs not so much the anti-US part, because honestly fuck the US gov and the shit they do lol, but more of the âChina/Russia/NK can do NO WRONG/arenât actually authoritarian governments simply because they oppose the USâ parts
There was nothing wrong with the comment that got removed, and they do that all the time.
âïž-they just look that good because the comparison is the us empire
CarlCould you describe to me, in your own words, how the North Korean government functions and what elements make it a dictatorship? Because 99.99% of people who spout this nonsense donât know shit about fuck and uncritically believe every single lie about that country that they hear from any given Western propaganda outlet.
pewgar_seemsimandroidSupport the wrong dictatorship. Youâre only supposed to support the American one.
In thoery we shouldnât support any dictatorships at all. But the average tankie poster will bend over backwards to fellate a dictator if they oppose the US.
Ideally it would be great if we could only support countries that were 100% good all the time, but tankies support countries that oppose the US even if theyâre far from good because they recognize that no socialist revolution of any kind is possible until US hegemony is broken.
Plenty of the countries they support certainly claim to be socialist, but end up just being authoritarian dictatorships with a different name
said every #2 hegemon in the history of ever
irelephant [he/him]đI oppose both.
Pandantic [they/them]Reddit? You canât say Luigi without being flagged for moderation lol
There is so much "comment removed by reddit"s now.
They also flagged the word âluigiâ as violence.
Tankie triad represent
BinetteI got so many tanks man
Hey, how are you here? Please tell davel to stop screwing with my site ban and fix it.
I donât want to lose my achievement :(
ElgenzayThe other 2 are explicitly communist but Iâd never assume a lemmy.ml user is a tankie.
People who chose the thing run by the people who make the thing gang rise up
BigFigShould read more about your instance admin and consider changing instances. I know I wonât support that asshole
âthat assholeâ has been working below minimum wage, one unexpected financial burden away from homelessness, for the last four years to bring you Lemmy for free
What Iâm saying is even if you disagree with his views, on the things that actually impact you, heâs been a great positive in your life
Just because someone does a selfless act, does not mean that they have carte blanche to spout dangerous misinformation and propaganda
What Dessalines spouts is by and large uncomfortable truths that are paved over by Western government misinformation and propaganda, your reaction is that of someone clinging to the lies they were raised with rather than accepting the truth.
Iâll be sure to tell the families of those who died in Tiananmen Square that that was all just âwestern government misinformationâ
find me a post/comment where Dessalines denies that Tiananmen Square ever happened
Edie [it/it/its/its/itself, she/her/her/hers/herself]
is saying that the story was largly sensationalized with proof saying it never happened?
It denies that a massacre happened in Tiananmen square.
but claims are mostly about never acknowledging that anything happened.
The claim from âââtankiesâââ is mostly that no massacre happened in the square, but that deaths happened outside of it in clashes between armed protesters and the PLA. Exactly as Dessalines FAQ.
âŠbecause thatâs what happened. US backed âfreedom fightersâ decided to steal weapons from the police, the police called in back up, and since China wasnât as unstable as the typical Muslim majority country, was able to stamp out ârevolutionâ before it happened.
Yes. I do think that it is correct.
Here you go. FYI his reddit name was parentis_shotgun
Do you have reading comprehension issues? He doesnât deny it happened in that comment, he calls it a US-backed color revolution.
Calling the entire protest a color revolution is a matter of opinion, but it is an undeniable fact that many of the most high-profile protest leaders were US-backed.
Dessalines, right? I happen upon a lot of his Github issue threads on libraries that i use, which i think is interesting when i recognize the account. He seems normal there.
Other than that, looking at his Lemmy profile, it seems he gets into a lot of political arguments on subjects that i donât know much about - i canât tell if heâs unjustly hateful towards any group. I have heard he bans people a lot over these disagreements, which isnât cool so i think your sentiment is fair.
Currently my only issue with .ml is the profanity filter but i donât know anything about the other instances either. I imagine this conversation has been had a lot already but if iâm on Lemmy either way, whatâs the difference in terms of support? If heâs a dick, iâd probably rather just switch to Kbin or PieFed
[email protected] if you want to learn more about their (and the rest of the Tankie Triadâs) shenanigans. Though youâll need to view it through another instance, because .ml blocks it to prevent their own users from seeing it. Talk about censorship LMAO
MeanwhileOnGrad - sh.itjust.works
[https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/d47cb2e5-a9c3-444e-83fa-8628ace85cd1.jpeg] âOh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, heâs on the floor!â [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBeU7o6DODI] Welcome to MoG! â Meanwhile On Grad â Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome! â What is a Tankie [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie]? â Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies. [https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ziq-tankies-and-the-left-unity-scam] - (caution of biased source) â Basic Rules: Sh.itjust.works [https://sh.itjust.works/] Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. â Basically, donât be a dick. Hate-Speech â You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech. Apologia â (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether it be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology. Revisionism â No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users, as it handwaves their extremism. Off-topic Discussion â Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post, rather than engaging in arguments that lack mutual agreement. Brigading/Trolling â If youâre here because this community was linked in another thread, please refrain from maliciously voting, commenting, or manipulating the post in any way. This includes alt accounts. All votes are public, and if you are found to be brigading, you will be banned. Good-faith and honest communication is an exception. Tankies can explain their views, but may be criticised or challenged for them. Any minor infraction of the rules may result in a warning and possibly a temporary ban. Youâll be warned if youâre violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically last only 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction doubles the duration. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time. â
Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem - feddit.nl
I feel like we need to talk about Lemmyâs massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml]. Itâs been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, letâs say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, theyâre whatâs colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldnât be much of an issue if they didnât regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, ⊠As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support. I posted a comment in this thread linking to âhttps://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs [https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs]â (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that arenât widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the âBe nice and civilâ rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place. This is what the modlog [https://lemmy.ml/modlog] of the instance looks like: [https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/6886b092-43d3-408b-ab57-2fa686f8a6c7.png] Definitely a trend there wouldnât you say? When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] that I had ever participated in. Proof: [https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/9c52e470-645f-46ba-ac1d-0b7d8be17af3.png] So many of you will now probably think something like: âSo what, itâs the fediverse, you can use another instance.â The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml], and theyâre not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So itâs rather pointless sitting for example in /c/[email protected] [/c/[email protected]] where thereâs nobody to discuss anything with. Iâm not sure if thereâs a solution here, but Iâd like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.