@Daojoan I support the choice. We kind of have to. There are legitimate reasons why some particular person may not want a vaccine. There are allergies and other risk factors. We can't make the decision about whether it's OK for someone.
We do have a right though to say that then there are places such a person can't go.
We also have a right to call such people idiots and even immoral in some cases. To recognize the legal right, not a moral one--because choice is to be wielded responsibly.
@crazyeddie @Daojoan That’s why their doctor makes that decision.
And that decision is overwhelmingly “…what the fu-get the shot and get the hell out of my office.”
@WhiteCatTamer @Daojoan No. Not in the US anyway. Here the doctor advises and the patient decides, or their guardian. I like it that way.
Well, to some degree anyway. The patient also has to be able to pay for whatever it is so there's not a lot of choice a lot of times. THAT is a different issue though rather than who has the ultimate obligation and right to decide what goes into any particular person's body.
@crazyeddie @Daojoan And that advice is “get the shot (you fucking moron)”.
Genuinely needing to avoid vaccines is entirely different from the bullshit “but it’s my CHOICE to fuck with herd immunity” but it’s been used as a foot in the door for that idiocy. Don’t fall for it.
@crazyeddie @Daojoan Sure, sure. You’re all good. Not at all eking out some space for all of these gads of genuinely concerned individuals who may not wish to put vaccines into their bodies.
Anyways, to the audience: don’t YOU fall for this shit.
@hllizi @Daojoan They can certainly be expected to by the rest of us.
I don't know if they need to be sheltered at home. That's something the health department SHOULD be responsible for telling us.
Now we are sort of going to see why it's important. I *WANT* these vaccines and soon the government may say that I can't have them.
It's like the right to vote. We're all a bunch of morons who shouldn't be given that responsibility. Look what we've done with it! It's still necessary we all can
@Daojoan It’s always the “personal choice blah blah blah” but for some reason these rugged individuals seem to like using public services, like public schools, and stores that are open to the public.
Wonder what would happen if we took them at their word. Okay, buckaroo, your body…and your schools and your government and your raw materials gathered from your land to be processed in your factories so you can hire your doctors and-oh, you wanna come back now?
Get the shot, moron.
@Daojoan wow thats harsh man!
I mean i agree with you but i wouldnt wish that punishment on even a mass muderer!