Manuel Eberl
Ruth [βοΈ π©π»βπ»πβπ»π§΅πͺ‘π΅]tfw I feel seen but also I think most of my stuff is working right now and maybe I should be grateful.
nakeee@platypus rings home!! I so constantly crash everything I touch in such novel ways that it made sense to monetize it as a validation engineer :) (Iβve been called fuckupfingers too often)
Stlex 
@platypus the same is also extremely true of people who are Very Cars
unlofl [Promoted Toot]@infernusgoatus @platypus I was gonna make exactly this parallel, its the cobblers children problem.
Similar to computers, the people who are very cars probably have two broken ones sitting around, and a pretty ok daily driver that breaks but they somehow always fix in 5 minutes with a multitool.
VΓtor De AraΓΊjo@platypus Well, my computer things work, but my definition of 'work' may be somewhat different from the average Not Very Computer person
@elmord oh gosh that too.
Parade du Grotesque πI feel very much accused right now.
But, to be honest, most of my computer stuff works.
Except for the printer.
And that VM.
Oh, and that other VM.
And why is this one PC not booting correctly...
And...
And...
And...
The Sleight Doctor ππ@ParadeGrotesque @platypus I have a stack of laptops, maybe a dozen. Only one of them currently works - two, if you count the one that works but the Enter key is broken. Which turns out to be one of the important keys.
All the rest are broken but in fixable ways. But I never get round to actually fixing them because I already have a working laptop, two smartphones and a newish tablet with keyboard and mouse.
The tablet was for traveling abroad, but I haven't been abroad so it's nearly unused.
Third spruce tree on the leftThe problem with being Very Computer: When it works, its very satisfying. F-you Apple, I'm running my own media server ha ha.
When it doesn't - which I'm not saying is any more or less frequent than the consumer box - its more frustrating cause instead of just taking it to BestBuy or factory reset+pray, we start reading `man` pages and pulling updates.
I spent 30 mins last night arguing with my Jellyfin server before restarting my laptop which actually solved the problem. :/
@tezoatlipoca I started laughing almost hysterically toward the end of this because a recent networking problem turned out to be -- reboot it but twice. Which... god only knows why but π
Strange New Words (Adam)@platypus If your stuff is working, you haven't customized it enough yet!
Kevin Marks@platypus see also bicycles https://epeus.blogspot.com/2002/07/jerome-k-jerome-on-coding.html
θ³’ι²γΈγ§γ³γ@platypus I'm not in this, but the reason is because I mothball my entire system with every Fedora release.
Rasmus Lindegaard@platypus Very Computer?
Just people who are computer nerds?
drΔvo duΕΎestv:oooooo:ΔΊno ππ@platypus "it would work eventually"
fraggle
Matt πΆ (LordMatt)@platypus Can confirm
Dan Piponi@platypus The eternal complaint from my wife about me.
Nol Malone β@platypus Truth. π
Amber 
@platypus donβt bring up my aura that breaks computers in inconceivable ways
Fin@platypus sometimes my computers do what I want them do. And sometimes, they do very weird shit. And sometimes...
It all was fun and games, until I decided to get back into coding and now my laptop knows how much aware I am of her inner machinations and she does not take this kindly and invents a contstant stream of newfound errors every now and then x)
Mark A. βοΈ {FalconMarkSix}
Vanessa Nightshade π³οΈββ§οΈ
Prema Marsik@platypus this exactly describes my day today. Trying to make multiple computers work uniformly - so far none of them works.
DaniΓ«l Franke 
@platypus Missing the part that us Very Computer folks often make the computers not fucking work on purpose while we try to make the computer do something that not Very Computer folks wouldn't even consider.
Anthony Stevens@platypus Screwing up computers... It's kinda like a gift, ya know?
GeorgeAlfredBlack@platypus My Computer Stuff works until I want to show it to someone.
Marcos Dione@platypus in Spanish we have a saying "en casa de herrero, cuchillo de palo", at the smith's house the knifes are made of wood, implying the smith's experimenting with wood as a material. I think I heard there's an equivalent in English about cobblers and their barefoot children.
GrantI've been using a Mac for many hours per day since '89. Inevitably I've been through what you describe, but... about ~15yrs ago, I decided to try something TRULY RADICAL. I decided to run my Macs as 'plain vanilla'. Nothing to alter OS behaviour. Instead, I went through the metres deep help/instructions and found all sorts of ways of doing things, within the macOS. I found that to a large degree, it does indeed, 'just work'. π
Ilona@platypus The Very Computer have this urge to make their machines work Exactly The Way I Fucking Want... That inevitably leads to complex monstrosities. I'm sure there is an XKCD for this.
Roger BW π·@platypus Somewhere on a disc, a cyber woodlouse is eating your backups.
Bitslingers-R-Us@platypus Very Computer of us with years of not working computers know to keep some working ones (sometimes - gasp - appliances like Macs and iPhones) and to not Computer working ones until we can deal with the downtime.
Vincent Sparks@platypus
I like NixOS
I like NixOS
I like NixOS
It is a USEFUL operating system
Using it makes things EASIER
I DO like it
Waiting 30 seconds for my config to rebuild every time I make literally any change in /etc is NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL
When my configuration fails to build with the most inscrutable error message I've ever seen I feel REINVIGORATED and FILLED WITH DETERMINATION TO FIX IT
Figuring out how to translate build instructions in GitHub wikis into Nix scripts any time I want to use any piece of software not in Nixpkgs is a FUN AND INTERESTING CHALLENGE
Troubleshooting other people's flakes that contain bitrotten links and won't build anymore is an EVEN MORE FUN AND INTERESTING CHALLENGE
It is FINE that a package manager whose purpose is reproducibility and longevity has basically no provisions against bit rot
Writing Nix scripts when what little documentation exists is scattered in random people's blogs is an EVEN MORE FUN AND INTERESTING CHALLENGE
I LIKE NIXOS
NIX IS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO DOCKER DESPITE BEING HARDER TO USE AND NOT PROVIDING SANDBOXING
DECLARATIVE PACKAGE MANAGEMENT IS THE FUTURE EVEN THOUGH NIX CAME OUT IN 2003
Enqfila: mestrando de 2 jeitos@platypus i see my computer working without any hiccups and start to fear it