Mozilla’s approach to Manifest V3: What’s different and why it matters for extension users

https://lemm.ee/post/56603005

Mozilla’s approach to Manifest V3: What’s different and why it matters for extension users - lemm.ee

Lemmy

Google is the biggest threat to open web

Degoogle, deny the parasite engagement and profit.

Degoogle by getting a Google Pixel now!
There are other options but yes pixel hardware is the best choice currently
Wooosh
Everyone here is aware of the irony that the most effective way to degoogle is actually to use a pixel. Its dumb but its the reality.
Unfortunately true ever since divestos stopped being developed. Living without a smartphone is pretty hard nowadays, but a reasonably secure and private smartphone (or anything really) is something reserved for the tech-enthusiast and you have to give money to Google.
I miss CyanoGenMod back in the dizzay.
What about GrapheneOS then?
It requires you to buy a Google Pixel Phone and its too complicated for the average user. Just look at the usage guide, I completely understand anyone who wouldn’t want to deal with any of that.
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Well i degoogled my Google Pixel with LineageOS and microG.
My next phone will be a Fairphone.
Funny thing is your sibling comment is criticising Mozilla trying to do just that :)
I am not following. Which comment?
The one by JamonBear.
What’s the way forward for Chromium-based browsers? I use Edge instead of Chrome for my work (Firefox for everything else) to keep data out of Google’s clutches since we use so many Google services. Since I use uBlock Origin on both I’m concerned Edge will follow the leader and take it away.
There’s an MV3 version of uBlock Origin, but it’s kind of sparse. I switched to Adguard and it works just fine.
Called uBlock Lite for a reason.
I’ve seen some occasional mentions of Cromite as an option for Chromium but not Chrome, so may be worth looking into. If open source isn’t a key detail, Vivaldi may also be worth considering.
“What’s the way forward for coal-fired steam trains?”
Its nice they are keeping compatibility with version 2 but I feel its about forking time for an alternative.
I’ve already been on Waterfox for years, personally.
waterfox does not use manifest?
I don’t understand; are you asking a question?
yeah Im wondering then if waterfox maybe uses the original firefox add on thing.
I haven’t limited into it much, but I don’t see why not!
why not just not introduce the changes that do nothing but break ad blockers?
That’s literally what the post says is happening?

including new AI functionality

Yeah, more bullshit! I use Firefox because it’s the only one with uBlock Origin.

We’ll keep you updated on what’s next for extensions in Firefox

They may be lying as usual which means I have to be proactive and find a future browser. It’s sad that I can’t trust Firefox anymore.

Can’t use Chrome, can’t use Firefox. The only sane choice left is Safari. Is Apple the better alternative now?

Edit: don’t be mistaken. I’m still using Firefox and have no plans to switch.

Fennec on android and librewolf and mullvad on desktop
How likely are those to remain viable once the source (Firefox) becomes too disparate?

Gonma cross that bridge once we get there...

But yes not very viable once mozila pulls a Donald Trump

I think there is do work being done on alternatives.

Also, firefox code base could be forked and we all will need to pay for it to be developed like adults

Yeah we have all our eggs in this one basket now. Would be nice if Europe would fund an alternative or two.

You definitely can still use Firefox. They haven’t added any AI nonsense beyond local translations and local image descriptions for accessibility. The article posted here is about how they’re not removing MV2 support, so uBO still works on Firefox. Since Firefox is open source, I guarantee that the moment they try to change that there’ll be a fork.

Stick with a Gecko browser to keep the market share up.

It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if even a post explicitly stating that everything uBO needs to function correctly will keep being supported, is interpreted as the exact opposite “because they may be lying”. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
As Mozilla moves into advertising and AI, I wonder how long their position on Manifest v3 will last…
Updates on Mozilla's Leadership and Growth Planning | The Mozilla Blog

Since 2022, Mozilla has been in an active process evolving what we do – and renewing our leadership. Today we announced several updates on the leader

Indeed. And Mozilla never clearly say how long they’ll support Manifest V2. The blog reads like typical corporate wording.
Where do you think most of the current income comes from?
Gave me a heart attack with Mozilla and manifest v3 in the same subject

If Mozilla drops Manifest v2 I might as well switch to a chrome variant (not brave).

I don’t want a web monoculture but it might as well be if Mozilla just copies chrome at every step.

Reading this article makes it seem like they are doubling down on not dropping MV2, and instead maintaining both manifest versions so that they can retain maximum compatibility and options for the user.

Not supporting MV3 at all would likely hurt them a lot in the long run, and adding support for it to the existing MV2 only opens up more options for addon devs.