France runs fusion reactor for record 22 minutes

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France runs fusion reactor for record 22 minutes - Sopuli

Lemmy

Garantee you they weren’t generating a whole lot of power though… And if you can’t do that part then what’s the point?
The first planes only flew for a few seconds.

Yeah, and we measured them to the purpose of flight… Not wingspan, or how soft the wheels were.

So maybe we should measure technology that’s about generating power by…

I’ll let you fill in the blank.

LLNL has achieved positive power output with their experiments. llnl.gov/…/shot-ages-fusion-ignition-breakthrough…

No fusion reactor today is actually going to generate power in the useful sense.

These are more about understanding how Fusion works so that a reactor that is purpose built to generate power can be developed in the future.

Unlike the movies real development is the culmination of MANY small steps.

Today we are holding reactions for 20 minutes. 20 years ago getting a reaction to self sustain in the first place seemed impossible.

A shot for the ages: Fusion ignition breakthrough hailed as ‘one of the most impressive scientific feats of the 21st century’

Call it the shot heard 'round the world. The monumental, first-ever demonstration of fusion ignition by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's (LLNL) National Ignition Facility (NIF) marks a potentially world-changing breakthrough for fusion energy and a key initial step in a decades-long quest for limitless clean energy, U.S. government officials and LLNL scientists said Tuesday. At an historic press conference held at U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) headquarters in Washington, D.C., officials with DOE, the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), the National Nuclear

Predicted fusion energy and energy actually harvested and converted to usable electricity are not the same thing. Your article is about “fusion energy” not experimentally verified electrical output.
If you’re not sure how the fire works, it seems kind of stupid to build a turbine for it.
We were absolutely not sure how fire really works when we used it in caves eons ago.

We also did not build turbines then.

Also, a campfire is not plasma, so you probably shouldn’t be building any turbines either.

Fire is low temperature plasma. A campfire has fire.

Very hot flames can contain enough ions / free electrons to be considered a plasma but a wood campfire the likes of which cavemen built, which is what we are discussing here, do not achieve such temperatures. If cavemen wielded acetylene torches then they might have more experience with plasma.

If you were thinking something simple like “fire is plasma” that is reductive, and the cases where flame is plasma are not the everyday kind. Hence, when I said “a campfire is not plasma” I was being pretty specific. Your reply that ”fire is a low temperature plasma,” as an unqualified blanket statement, is wrong. Go read on it. It’s interesting.

We used very hot flame later. Still without full understanding of plasma.
I may have to yield this point to you as a demonstrated authority on not understanding plasma.