Go ahead and take mine away. See what happens. I dare you.

Were you clearly diagnosed with clinical depression?

Or did your doctor not know what was wrong, said it was stress related and gave you pills to go away?

This is a really shitty attempt at a gotcha quotation, just do you know. I have depression, any neurologist with an MRI of my brain can tell you that, because there’s a softball sized cyst and the structural placement of it makes depression highly likely, it’s too big to be removed all the empty space would lead to shifting, brain bleeds, embolism, seizures, and strokes which would kill me really quickly. So shunt and valve and medication is my only treatment option. Anti depressants and just for people who are having a bad week and don’t know how to cope, or people behind on their self care, or people who are facing a life challenge and just need a little pick me up. Anti depressants are being taken largely by people who go to their doctor and say ‘‘I’m so depressed I no longer enjoy the things I used to love doing, I’m struggling to remember what happy feels like, and I can’t stop contemplating the end of my life’’ it’s for people with clear diagnosable depression. Please stop acting like you have any room to jump up people’s ass about the maintenance meds they’ve been taking for years that get them results when nothing else did. Do you think a jog a day is the solution? It’s not at all. If that was the solution, this wouldn’t ever be s medical problem in the first place, easy solutions don’t require medical intervention.

I have depression

OK, so you are in the first category

Please stop acting like you have any room to jump up people’s ass about the maintenance meds they’ve been taking for years that get them results when nothing else did.

I’m not. My beef is with the doctors who prescribe antidepressants without proper investigation of the causes of the symptoms.

Do you think a jog a day is the solution?

There will be some cases where this is true. But a jog a day is much more effort than having a pill. Particularly if you are out of shape. A pill is much easier for a doctor to prescribe.

easy solutions don’t require medical intervention.

Unfortunately paying customers want a medical solution. So they get prescribed a pharmaceutical solution.

If you really think the average person on antidepressants didn’t spend YEARS trying to solve it without any medical aid, your delusional.

My beef is with the doctors that prescribe antidepressants as a generic solution to all symptoms. Not the patients.

My beef is with the doctors who prescribe antidepressants without proper investigation of the causes of the symptoms.

I feel like you haven’t gone through the process yourself. I got driven to the point of confessing I would be better off dead before I was considered for anti depressants, it’s not just a “I’m sad today” “ok here are anti depressants”

I’ve been down the other road. Countless doctors dismissing symptoms as stress rather than fibromyalgia and prescribing antidepressants.

www.northwell.edu/…/gaslighting-in-womens-health

This is a legitimate conversation, but not the time and place. I have had similar issues with SSRI’s being the only solution presented to me (despite previous experiences + knowledge of my body’s previous reactions to these medication being articulated in my refusal) and this is very much due to having an AFAB body.

However, SSRI’s are an effective medication for many people, and the priority in this conversation needs to be on this deranged attack on medical expertise and established understandings of the science. There very much are serious issues with diagnoses/prescriptions being used as alternatives to acknowledging societal problems and a way to make invisible/medically gaslight the understudied chronic illnesses primarily experienced by women, but there are also people who are chemically depressed and are being served by the chemical treatment model - attacks on this fact are profoundly unscientific and harmful and the fact that they are being made by someone potentially leading the medical “establishment” = DEFCON 1.

but there are also people who are chemically depressed and are being served by the chemical treatment model

I highlighted this group at the top of this thread. My beef is with dismissive doctors, not their chemically imbalanced patients.

your contributions are irrelevant to the topic, and also super shitty to bring up around a lot of people that’re scared for the mental health of their families. “your beef” isn’t worth sniffing, so please take it elsewhere. you should be able to tell from ratios alone that your comments are unwelcome, shameless, and tactless.