What baffels me is that the Brexit referendum is won by such small margin!

Shouldn't referenda have the explicit consent of at least 50%+1 vote of the electorate, or otherwise fail?!

Turnout: 72% of electorate
Leave: 51.89% (37% of electorate)
Remain: 48.11% (34% of elecorate)

so in my scenario neighter Leave or Remain passed the 50% threshold: referendum undicided.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum

#Referendum #Brexit #EveryVoteCountsEqual #ProportionalRepresentation

2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum - Wikipedia

@fjelle ahh, well you see, the English elite are a bunch of cunning stunts. The 'advisory' referendum changed in a milli-second. Cameron was asked 'what now' seconds after the votes were counted. The idiot replied 'the people have spoken'. The right wing press & the BBC TV news turned it into a done deal. Alles klaar?

@Palky well, in the Netherlands, we had a very very very stupid referendum law on the books. The first referendum following this law was: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Dutch_Ukraine%E2%80%93European_Union_Association_Agreement_referendum

The people supporting were split in two kamps: not voting so to not reach the threshold, or voting in favour. The people against just voted against or black. Based on this explanation you might rightly assume that the 'NEE' (against) kamp won.

2016 Dutch Ukraine–European Union Association Agreement referendum - Wikipedia

@fjelle Which leaves me scratching my head, I do like the equivocation in 'statutory non-binding'; seems like a contradiction in terms. "what do learn from this?"...making laws by referendum is a pretty crap way of forming / approving political decision making. Not just because 'Leave Means Leave' squeaked in but because I honestly believe that however long it takes the aim must always be to pass laws that are for the benefit of the majority of all over a substantial (say a generation = 25 years). Collective / collegiate decisions are generally better than those born from confrontation. Here (UK) it all begins with our NFFP electoral system with a good dose of political ignorance / awareness and education thrown in.
Note, I'm not going anywhere near the Ukrani situation. My personal experiences out there and my knowledge of the history of Mittle Europa from the 11th Century on clouds my thinking and reasoning, so I say nothing.

@Palky (1/3)
> but because I honestly believe that however long it takes the aim must always be to pass laws that are for the benefit of the majority of all over a substantial (say a generation = 25 years). Collective / collegiate decisions are generally better than those born from confrontation.

Nice, You got a point there.
I do beleeve that binding referenda cán work, because they seem to work in Swiss. But they need a culture of awareness and education indeed.

@Palky (2/3)
We, the electorate, shouldn't be bombarded with stupid referenda in the first place. Only referenda that actually matter. How to do that -> would say a maximum amount of referenda per year...
'cause my municipality held a non-binding ref. asking “Besloten wordt tot het instellen van een algemeen vuurwerkverbod in de gemeente Alkmaar.” (translate yourself...) If you said 'no' then you were in favour of fireworks, not very handy...

@Palky (3/3)
https://www.alkmaar.nl/actueel/voorlopige-uitslag-vuurwerkreferendum/
But the referendum was stupid anyway because you can still buy fireworks in Alkmaar and there is no enfourcement of the bill (which was passed, btw). I thought the bill was dumb, so I asked my brother (then 15 y) what I should vote, to not let my vote be wasted.

please read the article yourself, to preserve the language from translation error by me. If questions, ask!

Voorlopige uitslag referendum vuurwerkverbod

In Alkmaar hebben mensen donderdag gestemd voor het Europees Parlement en over een vuurwerkverbod via een referendum. Voorlopig is er door 65,3% van de stemmers gestemd voor en door 34,7%…

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