NuclearPlatypus"This is my teacher, Ibrahim Al-Shawish, from my hometown, and one of my high school teachers. He was arrested by the Zionist occupation during the genocide and was released today"
moseschruteIs there an article? Not that that will make my family believe what is happening, but it’s more likely to convince them than a tweet.
For now there is only his interview he gave to SAFA News Agency, translated by Middle East Eye for example (see my commentaire in the thread).
His infos can be found in Palestinian orgs, agencies responsible for the prisonniers.
Translating Falasteen (Palestine) (@translatingpal) on X
To clarify he was released yesterday as part of the of the ceasefire exchange deal. This has been confirmed by journalists on the ground seeing him being transported. He was also number 59 on the released list to be exact. (see attached) Zios claiming otherwise are just trying
redrumAlternative xcancel links:
TrickDacyI thought linking to tweets was pretty much banned in the fediverse. Apparently not?
I didnt know that. Where can I find these claims ?
I didn’t say it was a hard and fast rule. I had just seen a lot of discussion about it and some communities and instances I know seemed on board. The lemmy search feature kinda sucks as usual but this shows a few examples of the types of posts I’d seen: lemmy.world/search?q=links to twitter&type=All&li…
LifeInMultipleChoiceDbzer0 has banned them. world has not I don’t believe
ScubusHow would that possibly be enforced
Moderation and/or bots? That wouldn’t be hard at all.
In order to block that, every single admin on every single instance would have to set up blocking tools. From there, anyone that decides to start their own instance would have to decide to also set up those tools. Thats the main draw of the fediverse, you cant block anything because someone can always federate with an instance that doesnt have that thing blocked.
It’s not my fault that you can’t understand the idea of general agreement vs strict requirement enforced with an iron fist.
It depends on the instance, because there are no universal rules across the fediverse, that’s the point of the fediverse, and I don’t believe this instance voted to do the pointless act of banning Twitter.
that’s the point of the fediverse
I fully realize this. I’m referring to a larger discussion which was an idea being thrown out which a lot of communities and instances seemed on board with.
That’s fine but your comment was basically “oh not everyone is doing the same thing on the fediverse?” Which you just acknowledged is the point of the fediverse. So you should criticize specific instances rather than just making a blanket statement
You misunderstood me. It wasn’t a criticism, it was a confirmation of misunderstanding
I feel like these threads about palestine / gaza are very emotionally charged.
Anything other than abject support for this thread and the prevailing narrative will be unwelcome.
Just empathize for a moment, imagine - you’re scrolling on your feed which encompasses the world’s daily news. You see a picture of a modern day concentration camp’s aftermath. You see the gruesome effect it has on people or you say the mass grave. You open it up and you decide to write a comment. What do you comment on?
I just think if it’s anything other than empathizing with the subject matter and engaging with it your comment is going to come across as robotic, as inhuman, because if something like this doesn’t move you then there’s something wrong. I don’t think a meta comment pinned to an empathic and engaging topic would be down voted so horribly. For instance, if someone said “I can’t believe this level of cruelty is still going on in places with abundant resources historically. Side note: when the source material moves off Twitter we should reshare that as Twitter is owned by a Nazi.” I would think people wouldn’t stop to down vote.
It’s not about getting in line with the prevailing narrative in this instance, it’s just the nature of Internet discussion in an aggregate platform on a serious topic that’s got a long time scale. You’re talking to strangers about people being tortured or dying and we live in a world where some non-marginal amount of people don’t care or applaud it so the first thing a frequent reader wants to do when reading a comment is vet that you’re not one of the applauders.
I don’t think that really adequately describes what’s happening in this thread.
Yes the subject is distressing, but plenty of distressing topics are discussed on lemmy all the time without this level of animosity.
I feel like every “distressing” thread has comments like that one that are innocent but obtuse and suffer the same vote ratio.
But perception is manipulative, without data I can’t back my position. Maybe we’re both wrong and the reality is somewhere in the middle.
Maybe stay on topic to the thread next time.
Sees post of horrifying condition of Palestinian man
“Why is there a Twitter link I thought Twitter was evil?”
There’s a time and a place.
Twitter is still one of the primary content discovery platforms.
Left is me after a 3-day fast
That’s really not an appropriate comment to make here. I think you should consider deleting your comment.
I disagree. Keep the comment there so more can downvote and some can realize what is an example of a terrible thing to say in the hopes that someone learns something
You must be you going through some serious shit to post something like this, that response to innocent human suffering isn’t normal. I hope you get help.
THCDentonI dont care how much beef you have with someone. If you intentionally starve someone, you’re a subhuman.
This is so fake it deserves the Gazawood Oscar for worse make up
𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠Why would Israel put makeup on them?
There was pretty widespread indignation about what the released Palestinian prisoners looked like upon their release from Israeli prisons. Some looked significantly worse than the people Hamas released. The Red Cross/Moon expressed their concern about it.
LadyAutumnWhat a disgusting sentence from a disgusting person.
This is how Israel has treated Palestinians for a long time. They experience nonstop torture and sexual abuse in these prisons. Both adults and children. There is no due process in these military courts, they are guilty with no need for evidence and no one to advocate for their rights.
Palestinian Prisoners in Israeli PrisonsPalestinians are jailed without charge, forced into false confessions, routinely tortured, raped, denied medical attention, and some even killed as a result. This includes hundreds of children. Palestinians denied civil rights (HRW) including Military Court (B’TSelem) Palestinian Prisoners in Israel (wiki) Children are jailed and abused in Israeli prisons (Save The Children) Torture and Abuse in Interrogations (B’TSelem) Thousands of Palestinians are held without charge under Israeli detention policy (NPR) Urgently investigate inhumane treatment and enforced disappearance of Palestinians detainees from Gaza (Amnesty) Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests (Amnesty)
Born Without Civil Rights
This report evaluates Israeli military orders that criminalize nonviolent political activity, including protesting, publishing material “having a political significance,” and joining groups “hostile” to Israel. Human Rights Watch examined several case studies to show that Israel unjustifiably relies on these sweeping orders to jail Palestinians for anti-occupation speech, activism, or political affiliations; outlaw political and other nongovernmental organizations; and shut down media outlets.
The before-and-after images of Ibrahim Al-Shawish speak volumes about the inhumanity of his detention. A teacher—someone who shapes the minds of the next generation—reduced to this state is a grotesque indictment of a system that thrives on dehumanization. Torture, starvation, and psychological torment are not tools of justice; they are weapons wielded by those who fear accountability.
This isn’t just about one man. It’s a snapshot of a broader machinery designed to break spirits and erase dignity. Yet, even in his frailty, Al-Shawish’s release is a testament to resilience. The question remains: how long will the world avert its gaze while such atrocities persist? Those complicit in silence are no less guilty than those who inflict the harm.
If this is true, it is below humanity. But trying to recognize the man on the left photo in the right one and reading more about this specific news post i’m not so sure anymore.
Top and bottom lips have the same proportion, ears have the same outward tilt, widows peak is basically the same, eyebrows are the exact same. It’s the same guy.
I’m glad that starvation and grievous torture is so unfamiliar to you that you can’t understand the way it dramatically changes your body.
I wonder what the names of the Israeli concentration camps will be that are taught about in high school…
samus12345How do you say “Arbeit macht frei” in Hebrew?
EDIT: According to Google Translate it’s העבודה משחררת אותך
the Israelis learned too well from the holocaust
شاهد على إبادةContrast this with how Israeli captives looked after 15 months of being held by Hamas.
they looked skinny, unwell and scared too
This man isn’t “skinny”, he’s a walking skeleton.
kinda like this?
i don’t know how skinny is enough for abuse/torture
Joli_corailSo, this is the officiel sub for Hamas propaganda ??
Is there anything about this that makes you believe it’s false or misleading propaganda?
Their account is 4 days old.
Good note, thank you. It’s important we protect ourselves against bad faith actors. I wrote a note on the account for myself but I wanted to give them a chance to explain themselves.
Eat shit
When I was in the equivalent of highschool we went to the KZ Dachau where I saw picture of victims who looked like that.
The testimonies that struck me the most since October 7, I believe, are these two:
The fact that in one month in detention the guy looks dead inside and unable to talk is just horrible (and they re-arrested him 2 months ago…)
Israel concentration camps are on Assad’s one in terms of cruelty
I’m calling it a cruel genocide and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on.
😈MedicPig🐷BabySaver😈Fuck Israel