@kkarhan I ran and hosted a bunch of XMPP servers a while back. It was a pain to use, and it was easy for users to make mistakes and accidentally send messages in the clear.

You are making people les safe. Last time: please stop doing this in my mentions and replies.

@agturcz @torproject

@kkarhan Sorry but no, the correct solution is to push for easy to use solutions that are at the same time private and secure. Hiding privacy and security behind a veil of "you need to know" is discrimination of people that are not able (either mentally, physically or monetary) to gain that knowledge.

The correct move here is for @signalapp and any other service to fix this and for legislators to enact laws enforcing proper security and privacy by design.

@max @kkarhan please point me at a system with a better ratio of security gained to effort spent than @signalapp ? Bonus points if it's actually used by people.