Simon B. StøvringAfter weeks of researching EVs, I’m convinced the EU should focus more on standardizing EV charging ports than phone chargers 🤪
Edit: It’s CCS2. The plethora of options in the EV charging apps made it seem more confusing than it is.
Okay, maybe there is sort of a standard in the EU. It’s just that the EV charging apps show like 15 different ports. It’s a jungle!
Mikkel Selsøe Sørensen@simonbs You don't have to worry about anything other than CCS for fast (DC) charging and Type2 for regular (AC) charging - which means you actually don't have to worry about it because they are everywhere.
But I agree, many charging apps overcomplicate it because they try to cover the entire world (in US and Asia the plug mix is different) and include really old outdated standards.
@simonbs For øvrigt, hvis du forvilder dig ind i Clevers app, skal du ikke tøve med at række ud hvis du oplever uhensigtsmæssigheder eller ting du undrer dig over - særligt som ny elbilist.✌️
@selsoe Tak! 🙏 Jeg er helt grøn i elbil-verdenen og er stadig ikke klar over, hvilken ladeløsning der giver bedst mening for os. Det tænker jeg, at jeg kigger på, når der en dag er trykket "Køb" på bilen 😄
Brian Lewis@simonbs The larger problem is integration with the car. Tesla is the only one with a first party integrated charging infrastructure. That makes a huge difference when taking a trip that’s outside your range.
Having to lean on charging apps is a “code smell” so to speak.
If you’re not planning on taking the car for trips and charging at home it’s less likely to matter.
Having it be completely automatic is huge.
David Beck 
@simonbs I’m a year into my first EV and charging has been way easier than I thought it would be. There are certain routes in the US that would be hard (central Oregon is pretty empty) but otherwise it really is just fine. And now that I have a Tesla adapter, it’s even easier to find a charger.
Nicolai Henriksen@simonbs Do we have any other than CCS?
@gahms I don’t know. There are tons of charging ports in the EV charging apps 😄
Pasi Salenius
Nerius@simonbs @gahms almost every EV uses CCS2. Exception is Tesla with its proprietary connector, and _old_ Nissans which use chademo.
Type2 is just a "slow" version of CSS2.
Schuko aka AC is literally a wall outlet which can be connected via a cable that comes with the EV. Basically a wall-to-Type2 adapter
Type2 is just a "slow" version of CSS2.
Schuko aka AC is literally a wall outlet which can be connected via a cable that comes with the EV. Basically a wall-to-Type2 adapter
@simonbs Aaah yes. The charging apps are generally not very good. Really weird. “How hard can it be?” 😊
I guess the data are low quality. Besides that, the UI is quite bad in all the apps I have tried.
I have been hovering over Xcode “New Project…” several times 😊 Luckly been distracted evey time.
@gahms I fear I'll have the same feeling when I get an EV. I certainly think there's a market for a good app with a yearly subscription. We need the Ivory and Overcast of EV charging apps 😄
Martin Schultz
Helge Heß@mshdk @simonbs @gahms Not Android, Android Automotive. That’s the software running on the head unit. E.g. used by the Macan E.
In Germany we usually have either type 2 or CCS, older cars like my Zoe only have type 2, but newer ones can do both.
I often use Google Maps first when searching for chargers.
In Germany we usually have either type 2 or CCS, older cars like my Zoe only have type 2, but newer ones can do both.
I often use Google Maps first when searching for chargers.
@simonbs Yes! Do not tempt me 😊 One challenge is the data about charging stations. Another is connection to the car to read the current charge. Not all car makers allow third party connection. Tesla famously allowed it but officially had no API, only a reverse engineered one.
I think that ABRP sell access to their infrastructure and that would solve both problems.
Khaos Tian@simonbs isn’t that CCS2?
@khaost I don’t know. There are tons of charging ports in the EV charging apps 😄
Jesper Kamstrup Linnet
Corrado@simonbs we have CCS2 everywhere, no?
castrolem@simonbs does it make sense to have an EV on cold climates like the one where you live?
@castrolem @simonbs It makes a ton of sense. While range is generally shorter in the winter (ICE cars also have shorter range in winter btw), EV’s always start, even on ice cold mornings and can be preheated so you don’t have to de-ice them and the cabin is nice and warm as well.
Eric Eggert@simonbs The charger is always CCS2 and most cars have the port for CCS2 with the two DC fast charging ports on it. The difference you see in apps is loading speed. No fast charging = small plug (still same connector), and then fast charging at multiple speeds.
Other than that it is impossible to plug a fast charging plug into a non-fast charging car (which are probably/hopefully very rare by now), your car always has the correct recepticle.
EU Standard since 2013!