@mnot that's a useful comparison, not because the technical and legal capability exists in any jurisdiction to investigate and acquire information, but because comparing jurisdictions requires making subjective value judgements about the likelihood of the system causing harm. What are the common rules and practices for domestic intelligence collection in each jurisdiction and when do you see authorities trying to skirt around rules because they aren't legitimately allowed to do something.

Thinking about it can help separate legitimate concerns from Sinophobia and nationalism.

@mnot I'd argue that to some extent the EU did precisely this as a consequence of Schrems… but alas decided that the solution lay in the hands of policymakers & the law rather than "let's fix the technology to not be vulnerable to content surveillance in the first place".

Their choice of this path being informed by:

(a) "we are policymakers/lawyers, this is what we do", &

(b) "if we let them fix the technology, it prevents OUR surveillance, too" &

(c) "let's spank the American techbros"