clifffJan 10, 2025

Shakedown folks (and only Shakedown folks please) - let's talk defederating with threads.net. Meta's recent policy changes explicitly allow homophobic, sexist and transphobic content https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/7/24338471/meta-hate-speech-hateful-conduct-policy-moderation

This makes their moderation policies directly contradictory to ours. Normally we'd handle this by blocking the server in question, and I don't see any reason why Threads would be different.

Does this move make sense to people? Any arguments for staying connected?

#stateOfShakedown

Here are some of the horrible things that you can now say on Instagram and Facebook

Meta’s policy changes around hate speech have sharply changed the content that’s banned or allowed when it’s based on gender, sexual orientation, and the coronavirus.

The Verge
Show threadJosh Jan 10, 2025
@clifff Agree 100% with defederating from Threads. I agree with you, we shouldn’t be treating Threads differently from any other server.
Show threadChopJan 10, 2025

@Nolasox @clifff Two counterpoints:

1) We still have not yet seen the impact of the new Threads rules on our community.

2) Threads is not just any other server. It contains 400M active accounts—including many of the commercial/news/mainstream accounts that we can’t get here. It should necessitate a bespoke approach once we see how this impacts us because blocking hurts us way more than them.

Show threadJosh 
@chopaganda @clifff You make some valid points. I think part of my view is colored by the fact that in my opinion Threads has always kinda sucked.
Jan 10, 2025 at 8:16pmWeb
Show threadChopJan 10, 2025
@Nolasox @clifff Oh. It does. And I have no love for Meta. But this feels like classic cutting off our nose to spite our face. At least until we see if their moderation rules combined with their very limited federation causes problems.
Show threadCuriously LoopedJan 10, 2025
@Nolasox @chopaganda @clifff There will be bridge accounts for specific needs, we should stand by our principles and not feed that beast. I'm thankful we each have the individual tools to block en masse.
Show threadChopJan 10, 2025
@noahitall @Nolasox @clifff But we’re not feeding it. They are feeding us.