People are all different

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Lemmy

But you can’t have cake and eat it too.
You can’t eat your cake and have it too.
This is the original, better version

I’ve never understood it the other way around, you definitionally have to have your cake to eat it.

What one wants to do is eat the cake and then still have it…

I suspect the cause is that the the layperson couldn’t wrap their head around the original version (because it’s supposed to be a paradox) and ended up switching it around to “make sense”
We flip idioms all the time. Head-over-heels is another one, used to be the other way around. I suspect it’s a subconscious thing as both moved the long e sound to the end and we prefer vowel sounds in particular orders and rhythms.
What if I just take a bite?
I mean, you absolutely can, you just have to make two cakes
I never understood the wording of this expression, doesn’t ‘eating your cake’ fall under the umbrella of ‘having your cake’? lol

it refers to the one cake. “You can’t have a cake and eat another one” would be yours.

But I like your attitude! Can you make me two cakes? I’m totally not going to eat both of them (I am but don’t tell anyone)

Two cakes? Not with this egg shortage.
I was taking it to refer to just some amount of possessed cake regardless of its subdivisions, It doesnt strike me as odd to refer to food that way (same as how, if I made you a bunch of french fries, it wouldn’t be terribly unusual for me to ask “do you like it?” while referring to the meal, despite it being made up of many individual units).
True, without article (the or a), your reading totally makes sense
I have never understood this saying.
you can’t have your thing if you also eat it (it will be gone inside of you)
But if it’s yours, didn’t you have it?
but it isn’t the thing anymore, so no its is now something different while soon to become a poop

I simply can’t imagine. I can see being homosexual, transsexual, bisexual, everything in between. I cannot see being nosexual. To me that’s like saying, “I don’t care to eat food.” Yes, I’ve always been a total slut.

Good thing we have them though! Just like any other sexuality that doesn’t reproduce, evolution gave some favor to those that could contribute to the tribe without the burden of child raising.

Are there people whom you look at, but don’t experience sexual attraction to?

Imagine that’s every person. No matter who they are or what they look like, they’re just… other humans. You never have any desire, nor need to be close with someone. That entire part of life just doesn’t exist.

Now imagine that every time you get turned on, it’s just the “physical” aspects. You feel the hormones, the need to release some tension. But it’s never tied to a particular person or body.

The sensation is akin to being hungry, but not “in the mood” to eat anything

You know, you’re totally right, we “do” need a term for always being hungry but never in the mood to eat anything.

Maybe you’re ahungry

sorry, I’ll see myself out

But we already have that? The term is “being hungry”. Hunger and appetite are 2 different things, that’s why we have 2 different words for them
What is something you wish normies stopped doing to you?

Mostly ask when I’m gonna get a girlfriend / married / or have kids

Although, most of the relatives have stopped asking, or just accepted that I’ll always be single

Also, boy “locker room” talk always made me uncomfortable

Thanks for indulging me. If I may? I’m not from the U.S., didn’t have locker rooms in schools. What is locker room talk?

Mostly boys admiring the boobs or butts of girls

Them: “Yo man, check out her ass… She’s so hot”

How i want to reply: “Yep, that’s a gluteus maximus, although I don’t see her sweating”

I think we can all do without inappropriate meddling into one another’s lives and objectifying. Thanks again.
Locker room talk doesn’t literally have to happen in a locker room, it’s just slang for talking about womens sex appeal whilst in a group of men without any women present
I'm not ace but I can't stand that shit. Also the way men feel the need to subtlety bully each other as part of their friendship.

Now imagine that every time you get turned on, it’s just the “physical” aspects. You feel the hormones, the need to release some tension. But it’s never tied to a particular person or body part. The sensation is akin to being hungry, but not “in the mood” to eat anything

Thank you. This actually really cleared up the middle row of the comic for me.

There was an interesting podcast episodes recently about a marathon runner completely indifferent about food. Until he noticed a weirdly irresistable cookbook in a window of a shop…

wondery.com/…/14189-ep-64-no-reservationsthe-bitt…

spoiler

It was brain cancer

What I will never get is a concept of gender. I never FELT like a certain gender, similar to how I don’t feel like a certain blood type. Both are just some attributes I was born with, without any strong feelings.

MrBallen’s Medical Mysteries: E64: No Reservations/The Bitter End

No Reservations:

Wondery - Feel The Story
I strongly feel like I’m O+, and there should not be any A or Bs in my public bathrooms!
Imagine a person you’re not attracted to. Not necessarily a person you dislike, just someone you’re not sexually attracted to. Now imagine you feel the same about every person. That’s it
That step 1 is the bit I have trouble with. I can picture people I don’t like who I don’t want sex with (though also some I do)
Think of some other animal then. Are you fond of anything but also don’t want to fuck them? The horny libido light just never turns on.
You really have no people you like but don’t want to have sex with? No one who’s like 8 or 80?
It really was a joke. I guess tone doesn’t carry over in text when one makes no attempt to show it

Just like any other sexuality that doesn’t reproduce, evolution gave some favor to those that could contribute to the tribe without the burden of child raising.

How does evolution come into play there?

“Gay uncle hypothosis” people that don’t reproduce increase the likely hood of children surviving, by providing resources to those they love that do reproduce.
Biologists have been pondering why homosexuality is so prevalent in the animal kingdom and their explanation for this is a positive evolutionary pressure that benefits the species.

We, uh, reproduce just fine. Having few to no sexual urges is rather different from never having sex. Plenty of people eat even when they’re not hungry, or for reasons other than hinger.

Asexuality and sex-repulsion are orthogonal spectra.

Contrary to crappy jokes on TV, most people (even men) aren’t thinking about sex 24/7

There are many good reasons to eat! Hunger! Boredom! Wanting to be the world’s fattest man! But not revenge.

There are people who don’t really enjoy food either. They might be fantasizing about replacing all eating with just taking a pill, or they might be soylent enthusiasts.

There are also people who don’t enjoy any music; misophonics.

And here I am, both ace and hate eating.
Born too late to be a philosopher, born too early to become a robot

Being allosexual sounds exhausting. You get some kind of feels for a person just by looking at them? I can’t wrap my head around that. Or sex drives. I don’t mind participating, but I could live the rest of my life not having sex just like I could live the rest of my life not eating a specific kind of cereal.

To me sex is optional. I don’t usually even think about it unless our allo centered world forces me to.

I like dick, but I’m not that into sex tbf. Regular sex is just a task for me. But… since I’m a woman, once a month I get horny as fuck

And here I am, sex-repulsed asexual. The whole sex thing is just incredibly gross, and I’m taking this virginity to my grave (I’m 39, I’m over halfway there!) and no one can stop me. I’ve never even been sexually aroused at all.

Indeed, all types are present.

Interestingly I can agree on the grossness of it, only when "the mood"™ arises a kind of nasty turns into attractively naughty. It’s a strange alteration. Like the new texture of a food you might find somewhat repulsive at first suddenly becomes highly addictive or desirable when you give in to it. The sleazy feeling of wanting to keep popping bubble wrap plastic without stopping.

This differs based on time, context (persons) and general mood.

I wonder if at a base level we have kind of the same attitude, but the hormonal alteration or lack thereof is what creates the differences and clouds my mind while yours stay sharp.

The implication that only asexuals ever have anything on their minds other than sex is more than a bit ridiculous.
Yes, yes, of course. Why didn’t the author think about you in all of this?
“I like pancakes” “So you hate waffles?”
#teamwaffles
Same taste, more surface area.
I don’t think this is necesarrily implied. The idea is probably that, like so many things, it’s on a spectrum and ‘asexual’ would describe one end of the spectrum. But I must admit, I do somewhat share your sentiment, I’ve read lots of things by self-proclaimed asexuals in which I recognize myself, but I also think I have a quite average sexdrive. It makes me wonder if some people aren’t just a bit too eager to define themselves as different from the norm. I’m not talking about the further end of the spectrum, but there are those that really aren’t that different from your average person, but seem to want a box to fit in. Not that I care, go ahead, define yourself whatever way you want, if you want to think that your different go ahead, it really doesn’t bother me, and who knows maybe you’re right, who am I to tell you you’re wrong?