@markwyner I've always known his name but never actually heard any of his music or speech. Thanks for this.

I'm partly reminded of a debate I watched once between a physics and religion teacher at a fancy school. I forget the actual debate title, but the crux was whether you could have morality without religion.

Of course I agreed with the physicist - and in fact if you treat other people well WITHOUT the anticipation of punishment or reward in this or the next life, is that not MORE moral?