lemmy.blahaj.zone admins sitebanning users for stating a fictional animal is fictional in order to accommodate for a troll account

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lemmy.blahaj.zone admins sitebanning users for stating a fictional animal is fictional in order to accommodate for a troll account - Lemmy.World

[https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/75572337-8e4d-4a27-8ab4-bb7242319361.jpeg] [https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e214e702-8a91-48e0-8852-8db1873d34cb.jpeg] [https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/34b6f56e-3a93-48d9-85b3-ee338f215207.jpeg] Edit: I also just got banned for apparently being a troll. Me. Not the person they believe to be a dragon though.

Blåhaj Lemmy and its communities have certain rules regarding respecting of one’s identity and their chosen pronouns. This extends to identities and pronouns you might not agree with. Those are the rules of that space. You broke the rules. The consequences followed. This is just basic stuff.

On the other hand, if you believe certain people to be trolling with their neopronouns, then engaging with the matter in any way, is kind of “falling” for it. So, just … don’t engage? This is the internet. People get to be (more or less seriously) humanoid animals, fantasy creatures and races, and if you can’t get along with that, you can expect to get thrown out of a space that explicitly welcome anyone regardless of their identity or pronouns.

The users are taking issue with the admins falling for the troll and allowing the troll to make the space hostile. Their engagement is with the admin/mod response, not with the user.

If you genuinely believe dragons are real and they are able to type and have some understanding of the English language, go gather the data, get it peer reviewed and objectively verified, and go collect your Nobel Prize. Otherwise, if you occupy a space in which people must act as if dragons or Santa or Groot are real, that is an improv roleplay in which failure to say “Yes, and” is a bannable offense. Reality persists. Eppur si muove.

fantasy creatures

By using that adjective, you are implying there are creatures which do not exist. You’re defending the admin response by partaking in the same act which got the users banned.

Why are you hung up on the “dragons aren’t real” thing? That was never a requirement. Some people will argue that being trans isn’t real, being plural isn’t real, being genderfluid isn’t real, being being bigender or another gender entirely isn’t real. (Not that you are claiming such.) As such, the admins there simply decided that there won’t be a line drawn. Let people do what they want. Heck, you could consider it “roleplaying” if you’re more comfortable with that, or alternatively, simply don’t engage. It’s disrespectful and not to mention disruptive to make it an issue.

Why are you hung up on the “dragons aren’t real” thing? That was never a requirement.

It was never a requirement that serious expressions of identity be real?

Yes. Them’s the rules on Blåhaj Lemmy.
I mean, apparently so, but I was not operating under the assumption that “We don’t believe in gender, this is all roleplay” was the base state of the instance, and many others seem surprised by it too.
Three feet to your right is “trans women are roleplaying women”. You may not hold that view explicitly, but the rules around respecting identity in that instance exist for that reason. And that means accepting identities that are challenging, even if they are being used by shitty people.
It’s not about the person being shitty, it’s about the identity itself being absurd and contradictory to reality.
You’re so close to getting my point. It’s like right there.

“Transphobes hate trans people because they don’t think trans people are real; therefore, in order to not be transphobic, you must admit reality doesn’t exist” isn’t very compelling.

Most ordinary folk would opine that transphobia is bad precisely because trans folk do exist in reality and are valid.