SquorlpleDec 28, 2024

lemmy.blahaj.zone admins sitebanning users for stating a fictional animal is fictional in order to accommodate for a troll account

https://lemmy.world/post/23626357

lemmy.blahaj.zone admins sitebanning users for stating a fictional animal is fictional in order to accommodate for a troll account - Lemmy.World

[https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/75572337-8e4d-4a27-8ab4-bb7242319361.jpeg] [https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e214e702-8a91-48e0-8852-8db1873d34cb.jpeg] [https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/34b6f56e-3a93-48d9-85b3-ee338f215207.jpeg] Edit: I also just got banned for apparently being a troll. Me. Not the person they believe to be a dragon though.

Show threadPugJesus
PTB. This has very much soured me on Blahaj Zone, unfortunately. Not a big loss for them, since I only occasionally posted there, but very saddening to me.
Dec 28, 2024 at 8:45amWeb
Show threadPhilipTheBucketDec 28, 2024

I’m starting to believe that instances that are primarily for one and only one subgrouping are a bad idea, because bad actors just have to put on the right group appellation and the rest of the community will go to bat for whatever malicious nonsense they’ve got in mind, because “they’re one of us!” It’s the same type of thing as separating church and state.

By far the most inclusive communities, in my experience, are the fully general-purpose instances or the regional ones. It’s just too easy for “we’re supportive for the X people” to turn into “well you’re not an X person, and the person who’s beefing with you is, so GET FUCKED from all of us.”

Show threadIncogCyberspaceUserDec 28, 2024
What is PTB supposed to mean? Pump the breaks?
Show threadPugJesusDec 28, 2024
Power-Tripping-Bastard
Show threadspujbDec 28, 2024
rare PugJesus L. everyone making this a shitshow had every opportunity to block this user, just as every other person we are annoyed with, but for some reason, no, we have to all be vocal about it.
Show threadPugJesusDec 28, 2024

rare PugJesus L. everyone making this a shitshow had every opportunity to block this user, just as every other person we are annoyed with, but for some reason, no, we have to all be vocal about it.

If it was drag themselves, that would be one thing. I don’t even remember the last time I interacted with, or read, drag’s posts. It’s the admin reaction which soured me.

Show threadspujbDec 28, 2024

which reaction? clearly stating that a rule would be enforced strictly before enforcing it strictly?

come on, man, you’re better than this lmao

Show threadPugJesusDec 28, 2024

The reaction mandating the legitimization of someone all-but-identifying as an attack helicopter. This is the sort of thing that if I saw in a satire of online trans spaces, I would have rejected as an excessively absurd exaggeration even for mean-spirited satire.

I suppose I thought too highly of people.

Show threadSquorlpleDec 28, 2024
Admin specifically endorsed attack helicopter as an identity.
Neopronouns are not trolling - Blåhaj Lemmy

I’ve been waiting until after Christmas day to make this post, but some of our communities recently have had a lot of noise and upset over someone that uses neopronouns that most people are unfamiliar with. So I want to make this clear. A persons pronouns are to be respected. This is true when the user is using neopronouns that you’re unfamiliar with. It’s true even if you think someone is trolling. Pronouns are not rewards for good behaviour. They aren’t only to be respected when you like the person you’re interacting with, or if their pronouns “make sense” to you. Trolls, spammers, twitter users, it doesn’t matter who they are, your options are to respect their pronouns, or to not engage with them. I really want to re-iterate the importance of this. Gender diverse folk are undermined, invalidated and questioned at every step of our lives. As a community, we need to be working to undo that, not creating more of it, and that means there is no space for treating pronouns (including neopronouns) as a reward for good behaviour. This isn’t a free reign for trolls and spammers. The rules still apply. Trolling, spamming, etc will continue to be dealt with, but it’s not an excuse to act as if respecting someones pronouns is optional.

Show threadPugJesusDec 28, 2024

I would say that, in all fairness, that could be read not as an endorsement of the idea of attack helicopter as a gender itself, but as a defense of it in reclamation/shibboleth/slang term, the way that some queer folk playfully call themselves ‘faeries’ despite the history of the term, without meaning to imply that they are literally the fae folk of yore.

… but her actions regarding drag do not inspire confidence in that interpretation.

Show threadPhilipTheBucketDec 28, 2024
You kind of have a point, to be honest. I started talking about this initially for well-intentioned reasons and still hold some hope that it might be lead to a better exchange of views with the blahaj folks, but it seems like almost all heat no light as of present.
Show threadspujbDec 28, 2024

thank you for understanding. please consider repeating this if you agree with it, as it’s going largely unheard l

i personally don’t give a fuck if drag’s a troll or not but HOT DAMB it’s like all the reddiquette to “not feed the (apparent) trolls” we learned in our past is thrown out the window we had is thrown out the window in this one specific case for some reason.

Show threadPugJesusDec 28, 2024

Like I said, I don’t even remember the last time I interacted with drag. The admin came out of nowhere and effectively said “We’re backing the idea of dragongender to the hilt” and banned people for saying “But dragons aren’t real???”

The core issue isn’t drag. The core issue is that the admin came up, all but repeated the Attack Helicopter meme using to attack trans folk, but rephrased as a positive, and then removed and banned people who were astounded by that. And as many commenters in this thread show, that is not entirely unpopular on the instance.

I’m not going to break bread with people who insist gender is just a roleplay like we’re all three and pretending to be Power Rangers.