Government funding plan collapses as Trump makes new demands days before shutdown

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Government funding plan collapses as Trump makes new demands days before shutdown - Lemmy.World

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So Musk was literally like “no, don’t give Democrats (the party I pretended to support for years) any wins, you need to not negotiate” and then congress just rolled with that.

And now they are just gonna do that while they control congress for at least 2 years because Musk has no idea how government is different from him running a business

That’s the point.

Musk already got his NASA contract money for SpaceX, Tesla and so forth. He wants to keep the money despite his rocket programs literally blowing up in everyone’s faces

The easiest way to do that is to shutdown the government employees who run NASA, SEC, NHTSA and so forth.

He wants to keep the money despite his rocket programs literally blowing up in everyone’s faces

What are you yapping about?

  • SpaceX is the most prolific space company in recent history, performing a launch every 3 days on average.
  • Falcon 9 is the most reliable launch system in in world.
  • Besides the 60 year old Soyuz, Dragon is the only human certified spacecraft capable of delivering crews to and from the ISS.
  • Starship is the largest rocket prototype -and manmade object- to leave the atmosphere.

And they did all this in the last 10 years.

Shitting on SpaceX just because Elon’s name is attached to it, -trendy as it may be right now- is dismissing the work of the engineers who made all this possible.

And no, I’m not sucking Elon’s dick.

In fact, the only reason SpaceX works well is because, allegedly, there’s a wall of people shielding the company from Elon’s batshit insanity. If it wasn’t for them, he would have ran it to the ground already.

All of that was paid for my tax dollars, and costs far more than what NASA would have paid to do it.

Do you think SpaceX operates an R&D division of astrophysicists to figure out how space travel even works?

All of that was paid for my tax dollar

Except it wasn’t.

From wikipedia: “SpaceX developed Falcon 9 with private capital as well, but did have pre-arranged commitments by NASA to purchase several operational flights once specific capabilities were demonstrated.”

NASA payed them to transport cargo to the ISS. Both Falcon1 and Falcon9 were privately funded.

and costs far more than what NASA would have paid to do it.

You mean the NASA that’s known for budget overruns? That estimated the shuttle program would cost $54M per flight that turned out to cost $409 million? (inflation adjusted)
The NASA that couldn’t come up with a new launch system for 14 years after the shuttle program was cancelled?

Do you think SpaceX operates an R&D division of astrophysicists to figure out how space travel even works?

Do you think astrophysicists is the science of spaceflight? Well, it shows you have no idea what you’re talking about.

but did have pre-arranged commitments by NASA to purchase several operational flights once specific capabilities were demonstrated.”

You understand that’s a form of extended credit, right?

Which had the R&D cost built in.

You mean the NASA that’s known for budget overruns?

Yes, because with NASA, safety is first. Not so much with SpaceX, where they can grab a PS4 controller, and call it the “Flight control subsystem”.

Do you think astrophysicists is the science of spaceflight? Well, it shows you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Yes, the physics of how objects move in space, relational to other objects, is basically the cornerstone of space flight. Let me guess? You think to travel somewhere, you just point in the direction, and turn on “thrust to 100%” huh? And you believe that 60 seconds is 60 seconds to a remote observer regardless of location in a gravity well, and velocity?