About 20 years ago, I moved to Canada. I joked with my friends that I was coming to take advantage of the socialized health care system. They thought I was just escaping Cheney's second term. Truthfully, I just wanted a change of scenery—but that’s another story.

For a short time in the U.S., I had Kaiser Permanente insurance. Holy shit, what a rip-off. If I got sick, I had to drag myself to their shopping-mall-looking building in suburban Atlanta, see their doctor, and then pay again on top of it. So I quit.

Not long after, I had two trips to the emergency room that racked up a ton of debt. On the second visit, I was in so much pain I was screaming my guts out for five hours before a kind nurse finally shot me up with morphine.

Fast-forward to Canada: the system here isn’t perfect, but if I need to see a doctor, I just... go. My meds are dirt cheap. I’ve been to the hospital a few times—for myself or friends—and we’ve always been taken care of. My partner and I even accessed the fertility clinic in Quebec when we were trying to have a kid—now we have a kid!

Yeah, I pay high taxes. Yeah, the system has flaws. But the peace of mind I have knowing that as I get older, or as a parent, my people are covered and I’m not gonna go broke paying for medical bills? That’s fucking priceless.

I get it—there’s a contradiction in an anarchist praising a state-run system. And yeah, my Canadian anarchist friends love to complain about long waits. But compared to the nightmare down south? It’s no contest.

I do wonder, though—how would anarchists organize socialized health care? What would a non-state model look like? Would love to hear what @PeterGelderloos thinks about this.

Given the current national conversation about health care in the U.S., it seems like most folks are fed up too. Anywho, just wanted to share my two cents.

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@franklinlopez @PeterGelderloos As healthcare in quebec gets progressively privatized, some people are trying to build users' cooperative clinics. This is how the CLSC system got started in quebec, and the Action-Gardien clinique in Pointe-St-Charles still works following this system.

A clinic is a long distance from an hospital, but it's a start. Friendly cooperative clinics might also help if certain treatments get banned in the public system (ex.: abortion, gender therapy).

But i 100% agree with you that i'd rather have a fully public system. The shadow-privatization going on right now hurts everyone except billionaires.

@ratonbaveur Yeah big ups to the CSLC. Unbeknownst to most people Puerto Rico had a pretty awesome socialized medical system that included clinics / pharmacies in most towns where you would see a doctor and get your meds in the same place with little or no cost. Then a medical doctor (Rosello) became governor and gutted the system.

But yeah would love to hear more about the coop clinics!

I was just talking with a partner last night about how, given that I live within a capitalist state (US), my value of “we take care of us” is most simply supported by socialist healthcare. Anarchist projects like street medics and clinics are important, and how do we take care of us in a land of lawsuits? Socialized medicine is imperfect, and saving lives is a good reason to act imperfectly

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I believe a substantial part of the reason why there needs to be “a healthcare system” that's a major social expense is that that exercise of medical care is choked to death by state regulation. And this regulation is because of the critical role of healthcare in social reproduction.

If people had the freedom to collectively care for their own health, they might find they can set themselves free from their rulers in other ways as well.

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@franklinlopez This is one of the reasons I'm thinking of moving to Canada. That and because Canada spends significantly less money on weapons, wars, genocide, and prisons, and has a much smaller prison population. I just wish rent/homes weren't so expensive there. I think free clinics are an anarchist alternative to state funded healthcare but most are propped up by wealthy donors. In an intentional community where workplaces are collectivized and people offer what they can contribute and only take what they need, I think collectivized clinics and hospitals can be sustainable. Instead, of funding them via taxation, they could be propped up either through voluntary contributions to those who want their services or through people trading their goods and labor.