On this day in 2004, IBM announced that it would sell its PC division to Lenovo 😟 Since then, quality has gone down for Thinkpad. It is now just following what Apple is doing. IBM had a fully industrial design team for the iconic brand back in the old days. It is sad to see such a legacy ruined by Lenovo

@nixCraft While I also don't like what Lenovo did with the Thinkpad brand especially with the yogas and all, I do still like the X and T series, they're sold to enterprises with an SLA so they can't really fuck those up (or it'll cost them fortunes they don't have)

I've been using the X1 Carbon gen 8 for years at work and it's literally the sturdiest laptop I've ever had, I regularly demo throwing it open onto the floor and stomping on the open screen with both feet, never seen anything like it

@anthropy @nixCraft You think so. My T590 had 3 displays, 1 Mainboard, 1 touchpad within 3 years and with less than 4 years the USB C port is broken. The T16 has some faulty pixels till now. But DELL and HP are even worse. I think I will try the frameworks next ...
@svanschu @anthropy My former employer simply stopped buying ThinkPads because of the bad hardware that kept breaking. They just started getting the cheapest possible Windows machines for everyone. The quality of Lenovo ThinkPads went to /dev/null, and yet they were still charging as if they were a premium brand. LOL. Meanwhile, C C-suites started using MacBooks for their needs, and developers demanded MacBook Pros. It just wasn't worth it for them to pay a premium & get 3rd class service.

@nixCraft @svanschu yea most of the thinkpad brand is crap at this point. I don't know about the newer generations of X1 Carbon, but the Gen 8 has been hands down the most solid laptop I've had, even compared to toughbooks, which is pretty wicked.

As for enterprise laptops, probably Dell is still somewhat consistent with their Latitudes but I also haven't tried the newer ones there.

Framework looked really nice though, repairable, modular, solid, good Linux support, I also wouldn't mind one 👀

@anthropy @nixCraft @svanschu 6th Gen X1 Carbon owner chiming in. Solid as a rock. No problems at all. Bought just over six years ago.

Maybe I've been lucky but it's the best laptop I've ever owned 🤷‍♂️