just got my GDPR Wrapped 👀 learning so much about my browsing habits
@Ninji thank you I love this
@Ninji I just love reading how they and their 1423 partners value your privacy /s

@laura @Ninji

I love the new thing where they say they care about your privacy but you have to pay a monthly subscription if you actually want them to. /s

@benx @Ninji Ugh, oh right. Subscribe or accept all. Afaik it's not legal but then uh, I don't have the time and spoons to report all those sites to the local GDPR responsible (if I did, they'e very likely be fined but uh, well)

@laura @Ninji

I saw a video saying that too.

I was trying to remember an example and one of them is The Mirror (a pretty mainstream tabloid in the UK).

@benx @laura @Ninji it's interesting how different countries have different dark patterns. The pay for tracker free subscription seems to me is a German innovation (definitely a European Union thing, as it is based of a European court decision that they have to allow you to reject trackers... But they don't have to do so for free). The model I find even more evil is where you click on manage cookies and then you see the list where all trackers are per default off and you can say reject all, but they have a second tab "legitimate interest" where they are all on, which is not changed if you click reject all, and you have to individually object to every one of their 800 trackers. I think again it's illegal in EU, because if they actually have a legitimate interest they don't have to ask at all, if you can object and they still give you access that sort of proves they don't have a legitimate interest, but of course that will take another couple of years before courts decide.
@clumpytree @benx @laura @Ninji
All "Legitamate interest" means is they claim to have a use for the data they collect, other than just wanting it to resell it.
@duckwhistle @benx @laura @Ninji well "legitimate interest" is also a term from EU GDPR legislation, if they have a legitimate interest they can keep the data even without explicit consent. I am not a lawyer, but I believe there are some actual requirements for when an interest is legitimate, it cannot just be used for anything. If legitimate interest would cover tracker cookies, than all those cookie banners would indeed not be required. Legitimate interest is also not something I can agree or object to, either it is legitimate or not. At least that is my understanding of the GDPR.
@clumpytree
I'm talking about GDPR. The regulation is a lot more wordy but Legitimate Intrest is fairly loosly defined, so many campanies are working on the basis that if they say the data they are collecting is relevant to their business nobody is actually going to be able to check up on what they do with it, if they are outside the EU.
@Ninji how many DNT headers were ignored?
@tj @Ninji we have a record of 58 privacy policies specifically respecting DnT and 324 specifically ignoring it.
We have above 500 services in our DB
A lot of ingored calls for more privacy :/
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@Ninji

Posted recently that I think these forms should ask permission via the browser (in the same way that websites ask for microphone or video permissions).

And then you can just put block all as default.

But.... that would fuck with Google's main source of income so unlikely to happen.

@Ninji reading articles through the gap above the banner...not only me then 🤣
@Ninji ah, reading thru the gap above the cookie banner, or as i like to call it, the “gdpr squint”
@Ninji you have far far too much time to make these things
@PupGhost yeah i spent like 1.5 hours on it after work >.>
@Ninji that is real commitment to a bit
@Ninji THE GAP ABOVE THE BANNER PART LOL

@Ninji

Somehow I have never seen an ad from Temu.

@Ninji So many people complain about Temu ads but I've never seen any!
@Ninji "consent-o-matic saved you 16:32 hours this year"
@Ninji
Yess, the cookie wall gap! Glad to know i'm not the only one 😅
@Ninji excuse me while I figure out how to put my soul in the laundry, it feels grubby
@Ninji me with an automatic cookie handler extention.
@Ninji Reading articles though the gap above the banner...
@Ninji the only unrealistic part is that the amount of cookies placed and the number of partners is far, far too low.
@Ninji fellow gap / opacity filter reader here
@Ninji Ugh, that moment you accidentally hit the Accept All button.
@Ninji cackled loudly on the banner gap reading
@Ninji I'm not in the know here, how are you able to collect this data?