Signaling that you are a man that can provide for a family

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stuffs deep fried chicken paste in mouth your loss !
i can’t help but think that if your first date with someone is drive thru mcdonalds, maybe that should have been the first clue
If your first date is a glorious scam heist, the future loooks promising

a glorious scam heist

You son of a bitch, I’m in.

NCIS hacking

I dont think they understand that typing two different things at the same time works. Then the guy just pulls the plug. WIN!!

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Maybe don’t order carnist options though

Why not let people excercise their liberty to decide for themselves. Plus how is this relevent to a date a majority of people are omnivorous anyways

Was their comment one of those ‘self-identifying without being asked’ moments? Certainly feels stereotypical to me. But, it couldn’t be that obvious.
It is. Some stereotypes exist for a reason, they’re earned.
I prefer Arch Linux over the Golden Arches. It’s much better for your health.
I want to say ‘exactly’, if I’m reading your comment right. The ‘carnist’ commenter could have ripped on McDonalds, or chicken nuggets in general, which both would have been super easy and everyone would have agreed with, and not made it weird by specifically falling into the stereotype here.
Nothing but a suggestion

I suggest you keep it to yourself next time, as you have only furthered the image that vegans are smug asshats who can’t shut the fuck up about being vegan.

Maybe that’s what you want though, it’s just a suggestion. c:

Rude comment.
If u took offence then it proves u are everything they claimed u to be.
It is not polite to use ad hominems rather than a logical argument.
yet you, without evidence, attack your interlocutors as murderers.
They made an “if/then” statement based on your statement. They attacked the idea, not the person making it. No ad hominem detected.
That logic is bad and you should feel bad. You suck. If this comment makes you mad, you’re only proving my point /s
Why are you angered?
Its not the liberty of the animals to be exploited and murdered.
The animals have no rights and no liberty. Plus if it wasnt for us farming them then their evolutionary niche wouldnt exist so if u think about we are doing them the favour.

That’s not entirely true because there are expectations depending on the jurisdiction on the standard of care for animals, in several countries they’re legally seen as sentient beings not property.

Putting them in filthy crowded slaughter houses where they’re kicked and shoved only to be slaughtered as children relative to their life spans is not doing them favour. It is our responsibility to stop exploiting them.

the natural lifespan of livestock is exactly when they are slaughtered

The animals have no rights and no liberty.

Why?

Evolutionary niche

On the one hand, the breeding of animals dependent on humans destroys evolutionary niches for animals independent from humans, on the other hand, humans destroy evolutionary niches directly.

Farmers won’t release or breed animals to improve their evolutionary niche, because farmers and consumers don’t farm animals for conservatory reasons.

Nuggies are breaded, not just meat, so this is omnivorous not carnist.

Carnism

Ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products.

Things can have several properties, for example a thing can be red, which doesn’t mean the thing is not a cube.

Carnism - Wikipedia

Thank you for providing the definition. Keep fighting for the animals!

Usually vegans use the term carnist to represent those who engage in animal products full stop, rather than breaking down the difference into carnivore and omnivore.

To us vegans, whether you’re carnivore or omnivore results in the same outcomes. Plus, many conversations surrounding veganism don’t necessarily involve diets, such as with clothing, in which case again it’s easier to use a single term to describe everything non-vegan.

You might say that non-vegans is a good enough term to describe the above, but that kind of framing can paint carnists in a more benevolent light that acknowledges their freedom of choice, rather than framing carnists with regards to the outcomes they cause, and the victims that suffer because of them.

You might say that non-vegans is a good enough term to describe the above, but that kind of framing can paint carnists in a more benevolent light that acknowledges their freedom of choice, rather than framing carnists with regards to the outcomes they cause, and the victims that suffer because of them.

so it’s just loaded language

My first date with my girlfriend was at a Wendy’s and we took the bus to get there. That was 2005. We got married in 2009 and just celebrated our 15th wedding anniversary. It doesn’t matter where you go or how much you spend, it just matters who you’re there with.
How many times did they say, “Sir, this is a Wendy’s” before they just gave up and let you stay all the way until you got married there?
They said “drive through” explicitly. I think there’s a difference between going somewhere because you’re poor and going somewhere because you’re lazy.

I dunno. McDs was mine and my spouse’s first date, after church.

We are married 27 years now…

I’m barely older than you’re marriage but McDonald’s was a very different vibe when I was a kid. I still wouldn’t say anything to shame people going to McDonald’s for a first date today.
Some people are poorer than you
Someone who does not appreciate another who steals from exploitative global corporations, is not someone worth knowing.

The entire reason the McDonald’s app exists is so McDonald’s can have variable prices to rip you off based on what they learn about your habits.

I hardly classify using their services in unintended ways as “stealing”.

If tech went down for six months, they’d offer you a discount for hopping on one leg while rubbing your stomach and patting your head.

Besides data collection, the main purpose is to get more money out of people willing to pay more without missing out on people who won’t pay that much.

It’s tiered pricing where they’re fine with you selecting a tier, as long as they steer enough to the higher one l.

This is what you text to win her back.

I can appreciate those who steal from corporations but I sure as hell don’t want to implicate myself by being with them when they do it lol

A guy I hung out with in college told me about all the ATMs he stole and asked if I wanted to go with him next time… I said maybe another time and then never spoke to him again. I didn’t want to be associated with him when he eventually got busted…which he did…

I don’t know the details of these nuggets, but I’m guessing they used multiple sessions to use a coupon code multiple times or something of the sort. More just exploiting a poorly set up system than theft.

Stealing ATMs is significantly different and definitely more illegal in my mind.

It’s the exact same thing at scale.
One is going against a company’s ToS, the other is theft… Not sure how they’re the same.
Maybe not something you show off on the first date. Got to lay down the Marxist theory first.
Let your che Guevara date night t shirt do the taking
They’re chicken nuggets, he’s not Robin Hood.
Unless he gives those nugs to the poor.

We are the poor.

Yes, there are poorer people out there, but I think we all kinda forget how big the divide is. It lets us put ourselves in a place where we feel like we’re doing well comparatively, but I think it’s important that we remember that we’re all being taken advantage of and we all deserve better. Yeah, definitely some will need a bit more uplifting than others, but it’s Us vs. Them, and I think we spend too much time trying to further sub-divide that ‘Us’. Thank you for attending my crazy segue.

We’re all poor enough to deserve those free nugs though.

Yes we are the poor. If you need a job to survive you are the working class. The middle class is a concept to avoid people eating the rich. This also counts if your salary is a million, if you need to continue to work to make your life work, you are the working class.
Also originally the middle class is wealthy people who have no title. Like landed gentry and the bourgeoisie. And the upper class is aristocracy and nobility.

There are only two classes:

  • The Owner class who lives of the income from merelly owning things.
  • The Worker class who has to work for a living.

we all kinda forget how big the divide is

Obligatory pixel wealth link:

mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

Wealth, shown to scale

Wealth inequality in the United States is out of control. Here we visualize the issue in a unique way.

He literally feeds 30 people and she’s still not impressed!?

You unwittingly (or maybe purposefully but few spotted it so far) tripped on the Moral Core of the matter.

Somebody tricking the McDonald’s system for personal upside maximization isn’t the class warrior so many are portraying here, rather he’s just another greedy fucker with a swindle that just so happens to target a large corpo.

A class warrior would be trying to make things better for everybody, not just himself.

I can see how his date’s take on this might have been that he’s a guy who is dishonest for his own gain, which is hardly the kind of person you want to get in a relationship with.

Further, somebody with their own decent notebook and the technical knowhow to run Android emulators is almost certainly not poor and actually needing to do this, which would be the only valid reason to do it.

capitalism contains the seeds of its own destruction.
I don’t view it through the lens of Marxism. Rather, I see this simply as cheating a cheater. The whole reason McD’s is pushing the app is to gamify the experience, take advantage of people’s psychological weaknesses, and trick them into paying more than they otherwise wood. I see this as just scamming the scammers.
If he cheats with you he’ll cheat on you. Even if it’s cheating on food.