bliblaHell Yeah
You are the chosen one
DiplomjodlerHave you tried making your sandwiches at home?
The avocados keep going bad though
I had this problem. If it helps, avocados keep for a good deal longer in the refrigerator.
TonyTonyChopperEat them
puppycat (she/her)neurotypical propaganda
AmputretGame changer!
Hooray! The ingredients cost 30 dollars and I get to eat sandwichs everyday for a week or watch the ingredients spoil. Wow greatest country in the world.
If you save $12 every work day, you save 50%. And you can buy cheaper stuff that lasts longer.
Yeah seriously, the “cOoK aT hOmE” crowd really annoys me sometimes. Unless you only buy non-perishables, more often than not it’s just not economically practical for one or two people. Grocery stores are optimized for families.
I don’t know what it’s like where you live but I’ve never had that problem and I mainly just buy groceries for myself.
From personal experience, it’s a personal failing and not an environmental issue. The only time I have issues with food spoilage like described above is when I over buy, forget about, or get tired of something. If I properly plan out my meals (lol) and space out purchases and freeze leftovers when necessary, I have very little issues with spoilage.
And having sandwiches regularly without having ingredients go bad is something I do all he time.
When ever I hear how expensive it is to cook I know I’m dealing with a young person who’s clueless. Have parents not been teaching their kids to cook?!
Reminds me of visiting my niece and her husband for dinner. They never cooked but made a nice meal that night. But they said it just wasn’t economical when they totaled the price vs. portions. They did the math and proudly claimed it was cheaper to eat out. My wife and I were stunned.
Well, duh? Now you have leftover ingredients. Add to those and plan another meal. FFS, they had to buy salt and figured that into the total meal price. They literally started with nothing. Yes, it’s expensive to spin up a fridge and pantry, but once you’re rolling it’s cheap to eat.
Eating out in the US used to be famously cheap. Now that people have been conditioned that way and everything belongs to a few oligopolists, they’ll squeeze every last drop of blood out of people.
For what it’s worth no, my parents did not teach me how to cook, and none of my friends’ parents taught them how to cook either
I was taught to cook so poorly I had to start from scratch and learn how to make food taste good. There’s no shame on not having been taught basic life skills, but cooking is definitely a skill worth learning. Begin by talking to the laziest home cooks you know, figure out their tricks because we tend to live off cheap and easy stuff
eg. black bean tacos: two cans of black beans, rinsed, cooked in water and store bought taco seasoning until it’s been sufficiently absorbed, put on store bought tortillas, salsa, sour cream, and cheese are optional, I’m partial to jarred nopales as well. Experiment at will.
If only there were some method available, allowing you to search for and obtain information on any possible topic! Maybe in some sci-fi future world, this incredible information resource will also include instructional videos!
To clarify, I can cook, I just had to learn on my own because my parents never taught me
Look, all I’m saying is that sometimes I just want to buy a little bit of parsley or cilantro for a dish, but can’t. I gotta buy the entire bundle and waste most of it. And that’s just one such example I can think of on top of my head.
Then you chop it all off and freeze it, put it in a ice cream box or something and then use it for stews where it’s not so important to use fresh
Been there, done that. Produce doesn’t freeze well at all. It just turns soggy and mushy. It’s a non-option but thanks for trying.
I use parsley and cilantro like that, but only in stews, soups and stocks it does get a bit soggy and frostburned tho.
Yeah…I almost never order out unless I have company in town or I’m completely out of food to cook after work and I’m lazy (which is like once/mo). And even then I’ll usually scrape something easy together like cereal or pasta/red sauce or even just toast/butter if I’m really desperate.
I’m not constantly throwing out food or eating the same things. Just every week or so I’ll grab enough to make like three separate dishes plus a few staples and just like that I’m set to scrape together something new or eat at least three different set meals. Or I can run down to grab one extra ingredient and make an entirely new dish combining what I have.
I definitely get eating out is delicious and much easier, but let’s not pretend it somehow saves you money lol
Do you know what a “refrigerator” is?
Did you know that refrigerators don’t stop food from going bad, they just slow the process? And before you mention the freezer: not everything can be frozen. Like most produce, for example.
Even with a fridge, most of the groceries the SO and I buy end up going bad before we can use all of the ingredients. It’s cheaper to just eat out most of the time.
most of the groceries the SO and I buy end up going bad before we can use all of the ingredients.
So what you mean to say that for YOU it’s cheaper to eat out given your current eating and cooking habits. But you are generalizing this for everyone. There are lots of reasons buying groceries and cooking may not be working for you. If you really want to save money, there is absolutely no question that it’s cheaper than paying someone to cook for you every meal. Just because you haven’t figured out how to do that doesn’t mean you can say that’s universally true.
This said, it sounds like eating out all the time is working for you and you are happy with it.
So this may not apply to you, but… If you do want to optimize for cost, I’d suggest:
what? I have never had this problem for myself. it seems people just want an excuse to eat out
Well I’m glad that you’ve found a way to reuse the same ingredients several days in a row, but the GF and prefer to have variety in our diets. By the time comes around that I have second use for the ingredients I bought, they’ve already gone bad. We got sick of wasting so much food.
I think you guys need to buy more versatile food then if you get so bored quickly. you need to look into spices. I don’t mean to sound rude, but if you want to save money, you have to come to a point where you go “yeah i had this 2 days ago but beats ordering food” because it saves you money that you could be using for something else (saving etc…)
CronyAkatsukiPlus learn to buy in smaller quantities, to me this seems nore like an issue of buying more than they can eat.
Also, has no one heard of a freezer?
If you want to get fancy, vacuum pack it. I’ll admit, I cannot stand even the slightest freezer burn. It makes me gag immediately. Vacuum packing basically eliminates that.
Yes if your going to splurge on something, get a vacuum pack pump. It really does work. I’m too broke af to afford one right now and im kinda going through a break up and trying to find a place and shit, but once i can ill be getting one. I was personally raised to use everything from what you cooked with, scrap cuttings i use from veggies is for a broth i make to make a nice soup with broken up spaghetti. I am also very into cooking on a budget and look at alot of recipes, and also cook my cultural (Italian, no not american italian food) dishes.
You can do a pretty decent job with a ziplock and a water bath until you can afford one.
Put the food in the ziplock and submerge it in a tank of water up to the top of the bag while its still open. Then seal the bag while the lower part is held under water. Helpful to have an extra set of hands if you have someone available to seal while you hold the lower part under water.
Obviously not as good, but it does help.
yes ive tried this without success, party because no extra hands.
Unless you’re doing heavy veggie sandwiches that’s strange to me. I’ve packed my lunch my entire adult life, and sandwiches are the primary staple. Back when I ate meat I was able to mix it up between two different types of cold cuts day by day using the big containers and I can’t remember them ever going bad. Since I quit meat I just do peanut butter out of convenience and it’s similar. Occasionally a slice of bread or two goes bad but with the big whole wheat loaves from Aldi it’s an end piece and a few cents of spoilage. And all this is with me being the only one to eat these things.
Are you under the impression that families are going to the grocery store every day and trying to eat everything within 48 hours of picking it up from the store? No, people are buying the week’s worth of stuff and might not be getting to actually cooking it until 6 days later.
Buy a week’s worth of food, with each perishable item in quantities small enough to go into a few meals per week, out of the 21 meals you’ll be eating that week.
Fresh vegetables and fruit last a week or two. Fresh meat lasts a week. Eggs last a few weeks. Most dairy products last a week or two.
Make meals out of a combination of fresh ingredients, dry goods (pasta, rice, beans, breads), canned/preserved foods/sauces/condiments, frozen foods. With basically one perishable feature ingredient per dinner, it doesn’t take that much planning to feed yourself for maybe 10-25% as much as it costs from takeout or restaurants. Even if your food waste is double as a single person, that’s still 20-50% the cost.
Freeze your food and eat more?
The ingredients spoil?! Either you don’t have a fridge or don’t have a clue how to cook. Or maybe turn your fridge temp down?
Lunch meat lasts a month, easy. Cheese? Multiple months. Bread? Depends. 1-day to 2-weeks, forever if frozen.
I get ham slices every trip. Any idea how many things you can do with those?! Fry them for eggs benedict, with melted cheese on a bagel, chop into an omelette, ham and cheese melt, part of a charcuterie board, 20 different kinds of sandwiches, and more.
All of that only talking about one of the ingredients you have bought. Learn to cook or pay someone a premium to do it for you. That’s how it works.
Oh goodie, first world problems. Never get sick of hearing ungrateful privileged people act the most oppressed by there super easiest problems to fix.
sounds like a fucking good time. i love sandwiches.
You know, you don’t have to buy everything in industrial quantities.
You’re right. I could also buy, um… a sandwich.
Signed by the “never heard of a freezer gang”
“Enjoy your tv dinner, micro plastics and preservatives gang”
I prefer macro plastics myself
That’s what your girlfriend said you prefer macro cuckold.
UnderpantsWeevilThis only really works when you’re at home.
You’ll be so amazed when you learn about sandwich boxes.
Something funny I noticed at my last two jobs. The people who had their financial act together always brought their lunch. The broke people, like me, almost always ate out. Go figure.
I’m sure these two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.
Then we can afford housing!
Just a constant reminder that gen home ownership by individuals is up. But who cares, let’s be doomers all the time. The economy certainly didn’t have any effect on anything important like an election or something.
Up compared to what, where, and by how much?
Millennials and on par with gen X. Also top third as a country.
Economist put together a nice article or you can dig through the omb data. economist.com/…/generation-z-is-unprecedentedly-r…
Your link is paywalled. But I’ve also heard this before and the main reason for this is that we’ve changed how inflation is measured, among other things. I don’t like replying with a half-hour video link but coldfusion’s “why is gen z so poor” Video gives a good overview, also using the article you linked as a source in the video.
Why is Gen Z so Poor?
Home ownership rates don’t need to take inflation into account. At the end of the day gen z, as individuals, own housing at roughly the same rate as gen x. The standard of living is higher and yes you can have this with inflation up and disposable income down people can still buy houses and do.
The US has weathered this global shift incredibly well, yet this sentiment displayed put Trump in office. It hurts me to see this disconnect and to see concepts like doom spending cheered.
Sure, but exclusively focusing on housing as an indicator for how rich a generation is gives a skewed perspective. Gen Z isn’t implicitly richer for owning a home, as they were able to use the low interest rates during covid which made mortgages less of a burden. They also have more opportunities to work from home, which allows them to buy cheaper houses in less desired areas.
However, just owning a home doesn’t mean you can actually get by.
It’s somewhat telling that despite all of those advantages, the average age at which people buy their first home is at a record high.
Right, so the "where" is the USA.
If we take https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z#/media/File:Generation_timeline.svg definition of the generations and table 12 from here, we can compare the values 16 years apart to see generations at equivalent ages. 2023 is the most recent data on that table, so millennials would be 27 to 42. We can't match that perfectly with the 5 year bins on the table, so I'll just average every bin that that generation covers a majority of. With that, we get:
2023 2007 1991 Gen Z 23.6% x x Millennials 47.9% 24.8% x Gen X 72.0% 53.4% 15.3% Boomers 78.5% 76.9% 49.1%We can compare generations at the same age by looking along the topleft-bottomright diagonal. This shows gen Z having a lower ownership rate than Millennials did 16 years ago. Millennials were doing better than gen X 16 years before that, but have now fallen behind both gen X and the boomers.
Sure enough, the entirety of the discussion of homeownership in the article you linked is:
American Zoomers’ home-ownership rates are higher than millennials’ at the same age (even if they are lower than previous generations’).
Not sure what data they're using since that doesn't tally with the above, but that's still second-worst, and the actual worst is the generation the post is actually talking about.
no way 47% of millennials own a home. i’m 34 and don’t even have a cent in the bank. I’m happy with renting though because home ownership has alot of responsibilities i don’t really want to because im super lazy.
BlursedTarotThe wording is highly biased and the article is poorly sourced. Here’s another link for the article referred to: archive.ph/wJJZv .
The Fed working papers ctrl-f “generation” -> : federalreserve.gov/…/has-intergenerational-progre… - the pdf paper includes the figures with non-biased language and here’s the conclusion:
Using data from 1963 through 2022, we evaluate whether younger generations are seeing slower income growth relative to the generations that came before. We confirm that there has been a slowdown in intergenerational progress, except for Millennials who saw their incomes grow slightly faster than Generation X but still more slowly than Baby Boomers and the Silent Generation. Intergenerational progress has remained positive for all generations. Positive growth has been maintained for Generation X and Millennials in spite of their stalled growth in hours worked. We investigate the role of two potential explanations for perceptions of worsening outcomes for Millennials despite their observed income growth relative to previous generations. First, we find that the higher household incomes of Millennials relative to Generation X, through their 20s, is a result of dependence on their parents rather than a rise in their own market incomes. By age 31, however, less than 10 percent of Millennials are still dependent on their parents and by then their own market incomes exceed that of previous generations. Second, we find that the rising cost of college offsets only a small portion of the income gains achieved by Millennials, especially when accounting for the growing generosity of financial aid. Our results focus on aggregate comparisons across generations, as opposed to direct comparisons between individuals and their own parents. Each type of comparison provides important information about absolute improvements in economic wellbeing across generations. Future research should continue to consider alternative measures of wellbeing for evaluating intergenerational progress, including consumption, wealth and social wellbeing (e.g., Fisher and Johnson 2022). Results on changes in wellbeing over time, including the intergenerational 26 progress made in rising incomes, should inform discussions about how best to promote wellbeing in the future.
Gratitude - I learned something despite the misleading trailhead.