X's legal filing in the InfoWars bankruptcy case is both batshit crazy and also what you'd expect. It asserts that X owns every account, can do whatever it wants with them, and can inject itself into legal proceedings that have nothing to do with it.

This is why it's incredibly important that people invest in platforms that they own, and move toward federated/decentralized/portable, noncorporate social media as rapidly as possible

https://www.404media.co/xs-objection-to-the-onion-buying-infowars-is-a-reminder-you-do-not-own-your-social-media-accounts/

X's Objection to the Onion Buying InfoWars Is a Reminder You Do Not Own Your Social Media Accounts

"X CORP. OWNS THE X ACCOUNTS."

404 Media

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Not really all that novel; people have social media accounts confiscated by the owning platform all the time.

@jamesbritt @jasonkoebler Exactly. He could have just waited until the bankruptcy closed and then stolen the name anyway, like he did to the previous owner of the "X" handle.
@jasonkoebler Wait, if X owns the account, does that mean section 230 rules don't apply?
@jasonkoebler I'd really like to see X's claims in this court case used to hold them liable for content on their site. A self-own ending their section 230 protections.
@bmitch @jasonkoebler I think elon already made many self-owns that should have ended their Section 230 protections, yet…

@jasonkoebler "I own all the accounts of everyone who posts on X but I am not responsible for anything posted here" is an interesting legal position that really ought to be challenged.

The owners of corporate sites ought to be held legally responsible for anything published on their sites. The assumption should be that content is vetted before it's published. For-profit social media sites, obviously, do not want to do that because it would kill their businesses. Let it.

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Always good to build a case around precedent set by the bang energy guy

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The Onion are "democrat globalists"?

@wonofone @jasonkoebler … while Elon, having factories around the world, apparently is not a globalist…

@jasonkoebler One thing taught in law schools is that "property" and "ownership" are actually a bundle of rights and that those rights can be separated out.

The "ownership" being claimed in the bankruptcy of Jones and Infowars is the right to control content posting/removal on Twitter, not who "owns" the computers and databases (which are clearly owned by the Twitter Corporation.)

The assets to be allocated in the bankruptcy proceeding are those rights to post/remove content under a given Twitter name. Nobody is asking for Twitter's computers, software, or databases.

The court should consider whether th attorneys of Twitter ought to be sanctioned for making intentionally disruptive motions that even a first year law student can see are unfounded.

I would add that Twitter has various contractual powers under its terms of service, but that would be a separate contract issue outside of allocation of assets in bankruptcy.

@jasonkoebler leave it to Elmo to valiantly come to the rescue of... *checks notes*

Alex. Jones.

@jasonkoebler on which subject I have figured out how to import an x/twitter archive into Ghost so if you're running Ghost CMS and want your tweets ported HMU 😉

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The statement that "you do not own your followers or your account or anything at all on corporate social media" has yet to be found in court. If it is, corporate social media will suddenly find itself liable for anything posted using the accounts IT now owns under the law.

I don't think Musk and his lawyers have thought this through...

#Musk #X #Twitter #SocialMedia

@PeterLG @jasonkoebler Well, that's certainly on-brand for the entitled failson who's never thought anything through.
@jasonkoebler this is just elon trying to protect his beloved kitten, the fascist movement. Dont worry, daddy big bucks got you
@jasonkoebler if X owns accounts it is not a middleman and therefore should be prosecuted for all illegal content on the „platform”it distances itself from. Either you are an impartial middleman or own the account - you can’t have it both ways - you cease to be a platform
@nikolaOrchestra @jasonkoebler not sure that’s correct…
@_keith_smith_ @jasonkoebler it is one thing to compel others, the users, but it is a different thing about relationship between content and the business, to gain safe harbour and status of a platform.

@jasonkoebler I guess the same is true for Bluesky or how it's called.

Yet fedi is unconvenient.

@jasonkoebler if they own the accounts aren't they responsible for the content? No section 230?

"La presentación legal de X en el caso de quiebra de InfoWars es a la vez una locura y lo que cabría esperar. Afirma que X es el propietario de todas las cuentas, puede hacer lo que quiera con ellas y puede involucrarse en procedimientos legales que no tienen nada que ver con él.

Por eso es increíblemente importante que las personas inviertan en plataformas que les pertenecen y avancen hacia redes sociales federadas, descentralizadas, portátiles y no corporativas lo más rápido posible.

https://www.404media.co/la-objeción-de-x-a-la-compra-de-infowars-por-the-onion-es-un-recordatorio-de-que-no-es-el-propietario-de-sus-cuentas-de-redes-sociales/ "

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@jasonkoebler Did Musk take into account that if X owns every account, X is accountable for *every* libel, slander, incitement to crime, incitement to violence published there?