right
personally i'm not really interested in doing things according to some sort of high minded standard
#democracy is being murdered. fuck lofty principles, this is about expediency
just kill #tiktok. now. any way at all
other #socialmedia also sucks
yes. kill that too. when we can
this notion "you're not killing tiktok properly, other social media is also bad" is some sort of bizarre whataboutism preventing what is necessary. it's ridiculous
kill. tiktok.
@benroyce @Arlodottxt @tasket @tivasyk Have you actually spent time on TikTok?
The abuses of the platform are real and no different than manipulations done via Facebook and Xitter.
While I wouldn’t shed a tear for either of the former, I’d argue that TikTok’s algorithm has had positive unintended consequences to go along with the negative, especially in how it connects minority communities.
It may be the most powerful organizing tool left in the face of Trump.
@pliny @Arlodottxt @tasket @tivasyk
https://www.influencewatch.org/person/jeffrey-yass/
co-owned #tiktok since 2012, helped fund its creation
*the* biggest donor to the #GOP
funded #Israel judiciary corruption for #Netanyahu
"It may be the most powerful organizing tool left in the face of Trump."
if i told you i said i was going to shop at walmart to fight walmart, what would you think of me as an organizer?
Jeffrey ‘Jeff’ Yass is an American investor, co-founder of the Susquehanna International Group, and vice chairman of the libertarian-aligned think tank Cato Institute. As of April 2023, Forbes estimates his total new worth at roughly $28.5 billion. Background Before Yass became involved in finance, he spent a year and a half after graduating from college playing […]
@pliny @Arlodottxt @tasket @tivasyk
'#Trump changed his tune in March after reportedly meeting with #GOP megadonor #JeffYass, who had a major financial stake in the app—he later joined the platform and vowed to "never ban #TikTok."'
again, Jeff Yass, co-owner of TikTok, is the biggest donor to the GOP
anyone who says TikTok is a "tool of resistance" is a complete moron being played for a fool
@benroyce @pliny @Arlodottxt @tasket @tivasyk
I've decided to sober up by drinking everything in my liquor cabinet.
@benroyce @Arlodottxt @tasket @tivasyk Ignoring for a moment that some people don’t have a choice but to shop at Walmart however they feel about it and no matter what they might be doing to try to change that situation - I’d say it sounds like you’re meeting people where are.
A better comparison though would be a Walmart being run by a stocking algorithm that unnoticed by its corporate overlords began filling the store with healthier food and more durable items.
There’s a reason the platform is banned in China.
I’m not saying you’re wrong about where the money is going, or about the dangers.
I’m just trying to point out the baby in the bath water. One that doesn’t exist with FB or Xitter, which are still apparently immune to enforcement.
@pliny @Arlodottxt @tasket @tivasyk
"don’t have a choice"
who *has* to use tiktok?
"meeting people where are"
the algorithm means you never meet them on your terms
"unnoticed"
wtf? there is nothing happening they are not aware of
"banned in China"
douyin *is* tiktok. douyin shows kids in china educational material. everyone else gets disinfo. you have it exactly backwards
"FB or Xitter"
"ignore the scorpion, because rattlesnakes exist." i can't fathom this whataboutism
@benroyce @Arlodottxt @tasket @tivasyk Probably because it isn’t “whataboutism”?
My only point is that I believe TikTok, more than other platforms has some redeeming. Enough that a blanket shutdown will do more harm than good.
I hope that Loops can supplant it in time, but this is the reality we’ve got.
Arlo Godfrey
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES
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