soloReport: Biden Admin Lobbying Against Sanders Push to Block Israel Arms Deal
givesomefucksEven after Israel treated Biden like shit for four years in response to unquestionable support…
Israel backed trump instead and Biden still is fighting his own party on this instead of spending his last few weeks with any power trying to mitigate Trump’s incoming damage.
At this point I honestly don’t understand how anyone can claim Biden was anything but a waste of four years that was so unproductive it let trump back into the White House.
I don’t give two shits if these ultra conservative Dems are slightly better than a republican. I know I can hold my nose, been doing it for a long time.
But not enough other people will.
And yelling at them isn’t effective.
So why don’t we stop trying to shove neoliberalism down Dem voters throats, and just run a candidate Dem voters already want to vote for over trump without needing a billion dollar campaign funded by everyone causing problems for the American people
Iran, Russia, China and North Korea have formed an alliance. The US supports Israel as a means to an end: preventing Iran from growing in power in that region.
Russia also supports the fascist apartheid regime and, if anything, the genocide emboldens everyone who’s already opposed to zionist colonialism.
There’s no upside to the people of the US or the rest of the west, only the politicians being bribed and blackmailed by AIPAC and similar de facto foreign government agencies.
TONS of downside, though, not least of which that what they’re doing is more morally repulsive and indefensible than even the atrocities that we rightfully despise the Putin regime for doing.
I agree with your sentiment wholeheartedly as long as you don’t sign off with “and that’s why I didn’t vote in 2024.”
Millions of people did exactly that, and so now we get Trump again.
I agree with your sentiment wholeheartedly as long as you don’t sign off with “and that’s why I didn’t vote in 2024.”
Well, I obviously didn’t say that so…
I don’t see my point in your comment, and I won’t even add a nonsensical hypothetical that you didn’t say.
Sometimes people add a “however I still voted for Harris” at the end of their comment to establish they’re not one of the dummies that uses your logic to stay home and not vote.
I was trying to feel out whether that was how you felt, and add an explicit negative judgement of that kind of thinking for anyone who felt that way.
I think not doing so is how you get applause from people who handed the election to Trump, kinda like how being a free speech advocate often collects nazi approval unless you explicitly denounce them.
I’m going to start ending all of my posts with. “I’m not a flesh eating amoeba” because apparently we have to declare we aren’t ridiculous things now.
When there are literally millions of people who believe something, it’s not stupid to establish you agree with most but not all of what they believe.
You can be a jackass about it if you want, though.
Just an FYI there brother, he ain’t the one coming off as an asshole in that Exchange.
That’s a very nice opinion you have there. It’s a shame I don’t agree with it.
Go back to reddit.
Clearly at least some of the Democrats are a Nazi as the Republicans.
Avicennasome? looking at the results about %90
Of Democrat Politicians, sure.
Of Democrat Supporters, it’s almost the opposite - if I remember it correctly over 70% of Democrat Supporters were against what Israel is doing in a poll not that long ago.
It failed on the floor, but got an impressive 18 votes, I think. Done.
All Republicans voted against it.
ZorsithThat was guaranteed, the Democrats that voted against it is the important part; these are the people to campaign against and vote out.
Sure, then you can have Republicans replace them and be assured it never comes up for a vote at all. The logic is outstanding.
How are you still making this argument? I hope you’re a bot, because if that’s a human brain behind these words that’s depressing.
Voting-oriented do nothing liberals are just waiting with their thumbs up their asses for one more chance to vote for the “lesser evil” Democrats who are worse than the “greater evil” Republicans of 20 years ago.
I don’t want to hear any more complaints from liberals until they fucking get out in the streets and actually take meaningful political actions that matter. Voting is nothing now, don’t you see? If enough of you cowards joined the left in being anti-genocide, if enough of you joined protests and riots and strikes and actual direct action, if enough of you considered voting to be the bare minimum and not the entirety of your civic duty, then and only then would we actually see any improvement.
I’m sick of hearing about how people didn’t vote properly. get the fuck out there and take real action. If not now, when?
You’re the people standing idly by and enabling the greatest evils. You’re the ones future generations will be asking about when they say “why didn’t anyone do anything?”
Nobody is going to talk about a minority of leftists choosing not to vote pro-genocide. They’re all going to be talking about do nothing cowardly Democrats watching their country go to shit because voting is the only thing they consider political action.
Stop punching left. Join us on the left and punch back. You fucking idiots.
The only answer of the DNC and their apparatchiks every time their 1992 strategy fails:
The logic is outstanding.
You mean the logic of just ignoring that primaries exist in order to prop op the false dichotomy that led to losing all parts of the government to a literal fascist party?
Yeah, your logic IS outstandingly bad.
Republicans will not allow a vote on the floor to limit Israeli arms. Democrats did. Simple
Again falsely assuming that the only Democrats possible are the crappy Republican Lite Neoliberals that lost everything to the fascists 🙄
Again, assuming your views are shared by the majority of Americans. Hint: they’re not
This you?
Fact is that yours is the majority opinion of the rich donors and their pet politicians, but mine is the majority opinion of the people in general.
All Americans. Sorry.
Wrong. Not sorry.
Turns out that burning US flags in the streets, defacing public property, and wearing a keffiyeh just makes you look stupid. Who wooda thought?
Turns out that your references, priorities, and values are about 30 years behind the times. Who’d a thunk it?
I love people who’s only experience with a college campus is to camp out in one.
And I love people who make condescending assumptions based on absolutely no data the moment you challenge their preconceived notions. So refreshing! So original! So smart!
Throwing a fit and determining everything is about you is a sure sign of a juvenile personality.
Yeah, so you should probably stop doing that.
I’m surprised that’s the best you can do.
Far from it, but you don’t warrant any better. Not worth the effort.
He earned the Genocide Joe tag at this point. Hes got nothing to lose but still insists the genocide continues without the least bit of resistance.
but after the election the Democrats are going to be anti genocide. They can’t be progressive until after the election because of AIPAC. once the election is over, they’re going to do a complete 180 mark my words
Don’t worry, Trump will be so much better for this entire situation. Let’s revisit your comment in 2025 and see if you’re calling out Trump for this as well.
LadyAutumnWhat in God’s name are you on? How on earth is criticizing members of the democratic party in any way considered to be support of Trump?? You guys are really taking the term “partisanship” to heart. I’m entirely convinced you’d petulantly support anyone if they were a part of the Democrat establishment. The way you come out of the woodwork to spout off this kind of deranged nonsense, it almost sounds like you WANT the genocide in Gaza to worsen. Like if it didn’t, you’d be deprived of the opportunity to pompously rub someone’s nose in it.
Have you no principles? Have you no morality? Are you a doomerist or a pessimist or what? If you have nothing worthwhile to add to political dialog other than “criticizing Joe Biden for literally protecting genociders from international prosecution and also continuously arming them is exactly the same thing as supporting Donald Trump” then maybe turn off your phone and go back to plugging your ears and closing your eyes. Your liberal friends are all waiting for you.
Let’s just see what happens to all these loud voices criticizing Biden once Trump takes office. My guess is magically they’ll stay silent or somehow still blame the left for what’s happening.
Supporting Trump or not, this mindset is one of the factors that helped Trump get elected again. Protest votes are the stupidest thing anyone could have done in this election, and to anyone who did so, you absolutely helped Trump get elected.
Go ahead and delude yourself into thinking that there was any other choice in this election, but the reality is that both sides support Israel, only one side will take it to an absolute extreme.
It’s absolutely heartbreaking what is happening in Gaza, but that is just one of the issues that were on the field this election and the country blew it.
Have you no sense of how things actually work in the world? Are you living in a dream state?
Not voting for Harris this election was exactly the same thing as supporting Trump in terms of actual effects.
Three things.
Democratic party is not “the left”. They are neoliberal conservatives who support American capitalism and imperialism. There are socialist factions in the democratic party, but they are small and have no actual power in the party.
No one said anything about not voting for Harris. You are having an argument with ghosts you’ve invented in your rotting skull.
“It’s awful what is happening in Gaza” What is happening is the Palestinian genocide. What’s happening is ethnic cleansing. What’s happening is the mass murder of children. What’s happening is the Israeli state and the IDF colonizing Gaza and the West bank. They are committing crimes against humanity with American guns and money. It’s already at the utmost extreme. They are shooting children in the back of the head en mass. IF YOU ARE ANTI-GENOCIDE STOP PRETENDING ITS ANYTHING ELSE.
You are a conservative. You are the exact type of person that supports token progressive politics while women lose rights across the board and the DNC does nothing to stop it when they absolutely could. Same with trans rights. Same with black rights.
You are not the left. You never have been the left. If you disagree with genocide then you should be denouncing it with us, not playing interference tactics for genociders and genocide supporters. The election is over. The DNC failed. Get over it. Accept it. It’s done. Time to address the many problems that got us here.
everyone under 40: Why send arms to Israel?
everyone over 40: 😐
Nope. I’m 41 and as appalled by the atrocities of the fascist apartheid regime as most people on the left.
It’s a Left/Right and principles/realpolitik divide rather than one based on age.
Especially now that Joe Rogan and troglodytes like him are winning millions of young voters over to fascism with their false demagoguery and misinformation disguised as entertainment and “hearing out both sides”.
Could be using his last days on something constructive, or to earn lower and midde class trust back. Instread why not one last war crime for the road.
Which war crime are you referencing the Biden is committing?
Aiding and abetting crimes against humanity by supplying weapons and funds while knowing EXACTLY what they’re being used for.
Remember when people got mad at you for calling him Genocide Joe?
They still do. They’re just even less justified than they used to be.
Fucking hate this zionist. Trump is monumentally worse. Kamala would’ve at least given Palestine aid. I just hate reality so much
No she wouldn’t