Pokemon Go players have been unwittingly mapping the entire world to train a geospatial AI model whose most obvious use cases are for robotic navigation and possibly the military

https://www.404media.co/pokemon-go-players-have-unwittingly-trained-ai-to-navigate-the-world/

Pokémon Go Players Have Unwittingly Trained AI to Navigate the World

Niantic says it is using data generated by Pokémon Go players to create a “Large Geospatial Model” that can navigate the real world and power robots.

404 Media

@jasonkoebler "Large Geospatial Models will help computers perceive, comprehend, and navigate the physical world in a way that will seem equally advanced [to LLM's]"

The more I learn about LLM's the worse they seem, so this might not be the selling point they think it is.

Even their example is weird: the average church has x behind it, so we can safely assume this one will too! But that's... not how the built environment works. I'm not sure how confidently telling a user there's a parking lot behind a church when actually there's a big construction pit would ever be helpful.

@jasonkoebler @VulpineAmethyst thats fine. When i play it atm, i can walk through a park, and go says I'm 45 metres away, walking through a building on the other side of a road...
@jasonkoebler what a time to be alive
@alien @jasonkoebler ¡Necesitamos un reconocimiento del terreno! Marchando unos Dragonites para movilizar a los entrenadores P.

@jasonkoebler I hate everything about this lmao

> Niantic’s LGM builds upon its Lightship Visual Positioning System (VPS), which allows players to pin virtual items to physical locations in the world with “centimeter-level accuracy.”

I don't buy that they made a system that can deliver survey grade accuracy without the equipment used by surveyors

> No church is the same, but many share common characteristics. An LGM is a way to access that distributed knowledge.

The similar characteristics are that all churches are buildings lol

Like congrats, you made a model that predicts that a church will have a fire exit at the back. Well done, thanks for emitting a small industrial nation's worth of GHG to tell us that.

Also why would using made up data based on "distributed knowledge" be useful for positioning? If you have someone looking at the back of a building you don't have data for, you could still determine position by the geometry and skew of the building's face, no making up features required.

@malle_yeno this church will have walls :]
@jasonkoebler @malle_yeno I bet it'll have a spire too, and maybe a statue of a naked guy, tied to wooden planks.
@jasonkoebler This isn't even Niantic's first time doing shady government surveillance lol

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And look what the advertising did:

@jasonkoebler can't have shit anymore. Can't even play a game which lets you go outside

@jasonkoebler Unwittingly, unwittingly... I was aware of the underlying spying nature of #pokemonGo, and I tolerated it while I got a quid-pro-quo. In fact, I was prepared for Nyantic to sold my data (I accepted that in its EULA), but not for my phone provider to sold my data, as it did against my will.

I disabled RA mode, but it turned evident that Pokémon Go wanted you to map everything, thus the "RA scanning" of pokéstops.

@jasonkoebler WHAT. WHAGGT ABOUT PIKMIN BLOOM.

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Bastards. Utter bastards. Explains a lot about how much data and battery the damn app used too, christ.

(I used Pokemon Go for two months in the pandemic to prompt myself to exercise but stopped because a simple walk down the street was eating up several gigabytes.)