Blazingtransfem98Nov 15, 2024

Banned from Egg_irl for calling out a Mod's misuse of the Egg prime directive

https://discuss.online/post/13496387

Banned from Egg_irl for calling out a Mod's misuse of the Egg prime directive - Discuss Online

Was banned from [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] for calling out a Mod’s misuse of the Egg prime directive to criticize trans people for helping out trans women in denial of their trans-ness. They’re denying the validity of signs of being transgender, what the actual fuck, this shit is not okay. Then after banning me that dipshit locks the post so no one else can reply on it. How is this not power-tripping? Modlog history for my account: https://discuss.online/modlog?userId=11993717 [https://discuss.online/modlog?userId=11993717]

Show threadDraconic NEONov 15, 2024

YDI, your behavior is incredibly hostile and uncalled for. Also WTF? Claiming people can’t play the girl characters and have long hair while still being cis? What the hell, that sounds so dumb and outdated, people can like whatever the fuck they want without it having a deeper meaning. Who the Fuck do you think you are to try and argue otherwise?

Also it’s a two day ban, take the mod’s advice and cool your head, instead of starting more shit.

Show threadBlazingtransfem98Nov 15, 2024
Hey wait a minute, you’re that dipshit who misgendered someone and said that Neopronouns aren’t valid. You have zero credibility in trans spaces and you should be banned from all of them, go fuck yourself you bigoted piece of shit.
Show threadGBU_28
Best to come with receipts when you say stuff like that about someone.
Nov 15, 2024 at 7:22amWeb
Show threadBlazingtransfem98Nov 15, 2024

Here’s a public comment of this asshole denying the validity of nounself pronouns:

discuss.online/post/13103441/11998755

Throughout that thread they refused to use the correct neopronouns of that person (drag/dragself) and constantly criticized drag for it.

Banned from [email protected] for using neopronouns - Discuss Online

Five days ago, drag was banned from [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.world/c/politicalmemes] for using neopronouns. A comment explaining drag’s pronouns, and a comment saying “drag” isn’t a nickname, were removed with the reason “trolling”. Drag understands why someone would think that using different pronouns than most people is trolling - transphobia. However, drag is confused how on earth not liking a nickname is a violation of any rules anywhere. [https://imgur.com/ZPBGyYT.png] Context of the removed comments: [https://imgur.com/JfYpK9P.png] Drag would like to pre-empt any further accusations of trolling by asking a question: If drag were a right wing troll, and you chose to freely accept drag’s pronouns, wouldn’t that completely neuter the trolling attempt? Trolling is about trying to make others upset. You don’t have to get upset when someone uses unusual pronouns. If you aren’t transphobic, then it’s impossible to troll you that way. And drag promises: drag wants you to not be transphobic. Drag is not trying to upset anyone. If you do what drag wants you to do, then you get what you want too. This is a non-issue, there’s only a problem if you want there to be. EDIT: DRAG DID NOT TELL ANYBODY TO USE DRAG’S PREFERRED PRONOUNS.

Show threadGBU_28Nov 15, 2024
Oh, the dragon thing made quite a stir.
Show threadBlazingtransfem98Nov 15, 2024
What @[email protected] said is unacceptable and invalidating to many trans people, he should feel ashamed of himself and be banned from trans spaces for it.
Show threadGBU_28Nov 15, 2024

I see nothing in their comment disregarding neopronouns or even nounself usage inherently, but instead discussing the inconsistent way the dragon person leveraged them.

Nounself pronouns are hard to write legibly with and drag failed to do so successfully. Why? Because drag is their handle as well. Nounself pronouns are not generally the first name of the speaker, as generally seen in the below links table of examples. (but of course not exhaustive examples)

The challenges many ( not just your target) commented on regarding the nounself pronouns are discussed here, and I think their conclusion is a good one. (Provide alternatives for expediency, and accessibility, as readability is inherently challenging)

nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Nounself_pronouns

That wiki certainly isn’t the bible but it’s reasonably discussing the topic, imo.

I am trying to be respectful to you now:

You seem very angry, across all your interactions here in this thread and around your experiences here. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot to be frustrated about in life. I’m not telling you to leave. That’s not my place. But I think you might find a happier experience with a bit of a break, and perhaps heavier curation of who you speak with, and where you hang out. Good luck.

Nounself pronouns - Nonbinary Wiki

Show threadBlazingtransfem98Nov 15, 2024

(Provide alternatives for expediency, and accessibility, as readability is inherently challenging)

No, people do not owe other people easy alternatives to just respecting the person’s pronouns. I don’t want people using they/them on me because it’s “too hard” to remember she/her, or keep forgetting I’m a girl because of my voice. No compromise, just respect people’s fucking pronouns.

You seem very angry, across all your interactions here in this thread and around your experiences here. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot to be frustrated about in life. I’m not telling you to leave. That’s not my place. But I think you might find a happier experience with a bit of a break, and perhaps heavier curation of who you speak with, and where you hang out. Good luck.

You bet I’m fucking angry, if you knew what it was like to be trans you wouldn’t be saying it so casually. I can’t just stop being angry or stop being scared. I’m literally living in a world that hates and rejects me for who I am, and I’m forced to listen to apologia from assholes who just can’t accept the fact that I’m a fucking girl.

Show threadGBU_28Nov 15, 2024

The recommendations on nounself language are not my own. Take that issue up with them. No one has a problem with dragons pronouns. They have a problem with their inability to write consistently and use them in a way that is understandable.

You are seeking and choosing these disagreements and friction, and there’s no profit to you. Look at this post, you spent all this time arguing with people and they are consistently disagreeing with you. It’s possible the whole group is disrespecting your concerns, sure, but it’s also possible you are approaching the issue with particular energy that doesn’t translate well in text, and is not winning any battles for you. That’s fine, you don’t need to win votes, they don’t matter. Either way, it’s you experiencing negativity in non essential interactions. You are seeking it out, and then cohabitating with it, rather than discarding it. Even a community you have interest in has put you on the bench for a break.

Edit everyone is guilty of getting sucked in sometimes. I am too. I’m laid up from a car wreck and can’t sleep so I’m spending too much time on here, imo.

For a person with very real and very valid stresses and concerns, you are digging up unnecessary fresh ones to add to the collection with these interactions.

Again I am not telling you to leave, or that you are unwelcome anywhere. That is not my place. I’m only responding to the content you have provided to respond to, most relevantly, the way you have commented in this thread.

Show threadBlazingtransfem98Nov 15, 2024
You are right, this discussion is going in circles, most people here don’t see or understand why this is wrong and it’s likely blahaj.zone doesn’t either. Otherwise they wouldn’t have allowed him to become a mod now would they?
Show threadGBU_28Nov 15, 2024
Well let’s not conflate what I’m right about, and the rest of your comment 😉
Show threadzaza [she/they/her]Nov 15, 2024
I think people have been weirdly authoritarian when it comes to drag’s pronoun - personally don’t get why they can respect others pronouns but not drag’s 🤷‍♀️ (still doesn’t mean because they’re disrespectful about that they’re wrong about everything)
Show threadGBU_28Nov 15, 2024
I explained the logical readability concerns, the group generally has no issues, dragon just uses them inconsistently in a way that makes it seem confusing and inauthentic