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That really sounds like something Terry Pratchett would have supported.
@cheetah_spottycat We'd probably be well served by moving away from thinking about "criminals" as a reified category at all. Technically, jaywalkers are criminals, but we never call them that. The way people generally use the term "criminal" is ideologically slanted in a way that, as far as I can see, makes it basically synonymous with "evil subhuman".
@malnormalulo @cheetah_spottycat This is essentially the framework for using "enslaved persons" or "undocumented immigrants". It acknowledges their situation as a modifier inferior to their essential humanity.

@malnormalulo @cheetah_spottycat we tend to use it as a permanent and unalterable defining feature rather than a result of some action. A person who goes to school is a student, until they leave school, someone is a swimmer until they leave the water. Why should committing a criminal act leave a permanent mark?

If that is the case, aren't we all "criminals" ? Have any of us never parked illegally? Cut across a vacant lot? Briefly crossed a double yellow? Worn white after labor day?

@SkipHuffman @malnormalulo @cheetah_spottycat

“they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”

^ a quote from someone who doesn't have a lot of self awareness, it seems

@malnormalulo @cheetah_spottycat i would say that the reason why so many people think of "criminals" this way is because we as a society still treat "crime" as an individual moral failing, and anyone who commits one must therefore be some degree of evil, which in turn makes it easy to dehumanize them

this kind of thinking becomes much harder to justify if we would instead think of crime as a symptom of underlying socioeconomic problems (and which cannot be solved by throwing people into prison)

@cheetah_spottycat Same as bodily autonomy. If one person doesn't have it, none of us have it.

It's a courtesy we extend to corpses... but in some places in the world, not a right we extend to women.

@cheetah_spottycat „Jede Gesellschaft muss sich daran messen lassen, wie sie ihre ärmsten Mitglieder behandelt!“ – Willy Meurer

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If you want to see rights, have money.

Its the basic rule, everything else is distraction.

@kevinrns @cheetah_spottycat It doesn't need to be that way. We can, and we should find a way to protect the rights and wellbeing of the weakest and most vulnerable. Even if it seems hopeless. Apathy is not the way systems are changed.

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81% of Ontario prisoners have not been found guilty of a goddamned thing.

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If you only knew how many "Soft on Crime" ads I saw on TV this election. 😒
@cheetah_spottycat Yeah! Damn right you are!

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I always wondered why American prisoners do not have the right to vote since punishment by imprisonment is supposed to be loss of liberty, not loss of citizenship. Loss of rights for convicted criminals is just one step before loss of the right of due process for the accused.

@cheetah_spottycat @TheJen Precisely. I was born in a country under communist rule. One of the sayings from that time that needs to be remembered: "Give us a person, we'll find a law they broke". BTW, people in prisons would get to vote (they still do in Poland). Although they voted as all did – for the one and only party.
@Szescstopni @cheetah_spottycat @TheJen just look to China. Many laws that are so badly defined, almost everyone can be guilty. And if that doesn't work, there's always the byzantine tax law (probably also a good law for any wannabe dictator in the US, too... I heard taxes in the US are quite complicated)
@cheetah_spottycat the fact that I can’t hire someone with a felony conviction blows my mind now. They can’t do cyber security but they can run the country……?
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And the same goes for terrorists.
@cheetah_spottycat i've said this for decades. all you have to do is put your political opposition in jail and boom.
@cheetah_spottycat tell this to thehundreds of millions who voted Trump & his people into Office.
@Trinimastadon2028 @cheetah_spottycat what hundreds of millions?
@municipaladhesives you're kidding, you did not see what happened last Tuesday? Or are you in denial like all of Kamala's supporters?
@Trinimastadon2028 You're right, there were billions of Trump voters. Trillions even.
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I can agree with the rest of this, but that last line is just completely wrong and hyperbolic.
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See also, prison-industrial complex and prisons as a labor source.
@cheetah_spottycat Making one of them president wasn't the smartest move, though.