Technology ConnectionsIn re: some conversations I've had in other places (real and online)
A lot of people in leftist circles seem to begin conversations on step 8 and are surprised when the person they're talking to isn't receptive.
Ya gotta start on step 1.
There's a whole host of good people out there who - believe it or not! - are still using cold war vocabulary. They have not read the theory and whipping out "capitalism bad" freaks them the fuck out.
They usually want the same thing as you do, but it's your job to help them see it. And it starts with meeting them where they're at. Step 1.
Bob Collins@TechConnectify
I'm waiting. Unless you are redefining terms, "capitalism bad," is just ignorant.
I'm waiting. Unless you are redefining terms, "capitalism bad," is just ignorant.
@BobCollins so, to answer earnestly, what people mean when they say that is usually "power structures which form through unchecked greed and hoarding of wealth" but instead they just say capitalism.
@TechConnectify
OK, my observation that meets that is "unregulated capitalism is bad." In fact, Adam Smith considered regulation necessary.
The problem with saying all "capitalism is bad," flies in the face of actual history.
J Lou@BobCollins @TechConnectify Why does it fly in the face of actual history?
Capitalism being an improvement over past systems doesn't mean there are no valid critiques of it. The failures of authoritarian Marxist-Leninist states don't mean that other alternatives to capitalism wouldn't be better than capitalism such as economic democracy
Li ~ Crystal System@jlou @BobCollins @TechConnectify I don’t think capitalism is even really an improvement on past systems ..
ChemicalTribe@Li
It's an improvement on feudalism. In that, your social status was tied to birth. Now, obv, that's still the case with capitalism, but sometimes, a poor person can strike it big. In reality, this system, called conservatism, was really a way to combat democracy.
My views on this are from The Alt Right Playbook - There's Always a Bigger Fish, on youtube.
@jlou @BobCollins @TechConnectify
It's an improvement on feudalism. In that, your social status was tied to birth. Now, obv, that's still the case with capitalism, but sometimes, a poor person can strike it big. In reality, this system, called conservatism, was really a way to combat democracy.
My views on this are from The Alt Right Playbook - There's Always a Bigger Fish, on youtube.
@jlou @BobCollins @TechConnectify
@ChemicalTribe @jlou @BobCollins @TechConnectify ah I see your issue was comparing it to fudalism instead of litterally anything else
@Li
Well, that's what the elite do, right? Combat change with a heartless and pointless comprimise.
@jlou @BobCollins @TechConnectify
Well, that's what the elite do, right? Combat change with a heartless and pointless comprimise.
@jlou @BobCollins @TechConnectify
@ChemicalTribe @jlou @BobCollins @TechConnectify well if you wanna say it’s “better than what came before” you could atleast compare to a “before” when things were actually good.?